
The Wandering Fleet of Deep Space
深空之流浪舰队
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Every time I read the book "The Ultimate Eternity", I have a lot of thoughts. Maybe it resonates with my thoughts very much. I have also thought about many of the author's questions. Regarding the debate between science and ethics at the beginning of the book, let me share some of my thoughts: To understand this issue, we must understand what ethics is and how it arises. I think ethics is a behavioral norm gradually formed in the process of human evolution that is conducive to the existence and development of social groups in nature. To give two simple examples, a universal ethics: brothers and sisters are not allowed to get married, and mothers, sons, and fathers are not allowed to mate. Why does this ethic exist: Because inbreeding will make offspring mentally retarded, tribes without this ethic will be eliminated! However, if this ethics is not conducive to the survival of a group, it will sometimes disappear. For example: in modern times, many bankers and capitalists have adopted incest marriage, such as Berling in London, Hope in the Netherlands, and Rothschild in Frankfurt. Because incest marriage will prevent the family wealth from flowing out and reduce the trouble in the inheritance delivery process, this "natural" morality has been abolished. The famous Habsburg family also had a similar experience. In order to maintain his "supreme" bloodline, the purity of the bloodline guaranteed the rule of the Austrian Empire. Another example: the Xiongnu and other nomadic tribes, as well as the Tubo, all have the custom of wives of tribal leaders (some not including biological mothers, some including) marrying their sons after the death of the leader. Why? Because in these places with harsh ecological environments, men's power advantage has been further strengthened, and women's social status is far lower than in farming civilizations. Moreover, marrying one's own son actually guarantees the survival of these women. Therefore, this custom is even considered to be natural. It can be seen that different geographical environments and social environments will produce different ethics and morals. Similarly, ethics and morality have actually been developing along with the development of productivity. Here are two simple examples: when productivity was extremely low, it was common practice to carry old people into the mountains and leave them to fend for themselves. Once productivity developed, various regions generally developed the custom of respecting the elderly (although to varying degrees), because when productivity was extremely low, the elderly stayed in the tribe to consume food, which was not conducive to the survival of the tribe. Therefore, abandoning the elderly became a universal morality, and some extreme tribes would even abandon thin newborns. Once food became relatively abundant, the role of the experience of the elderly came into play, and respect for the elderly became the mainstream ethic again. Another example that we are very familiar with is the abolition of the Three Cardinal Guidelines and the Five Constant Rules in the late Qing Dynasty and the early Republic of China. The ethics of husband guiding wife and monarch guiding ministers were conducive to maintaining social stability in the feudal period. However, with the process of industrialization, the liberation of female productivity has become inevitable. It can be seen that ethics and morality are not static and must develop with the development of productive forces. To sum up, I think ethics and morality are actually very similar to political systems, but they are more basic and more universal. But it is also affected by natural conditions and social conditions, and develops with the development of productive forces. So I think it is incorrect to use ethics to constrain science, because as science develops and productivity increases, ethics will naturally change accordingly. Although there will be pain in this process, it is worth being cautious, but the wheels of history are rolling forward, and what should appear will always appear! How is the rejection of in vitro fertilization and human cloning different now from the rejection of equality during the Qing Dynasty and the rejection of women's rights during the Industrial Revolution? ! If human cloning technology is realized, it will greatly solve the labor problem, social productivity will be greatly improved, and new ethics and morals will naturally emerge. This process may be accompanied by pains such as the human cloning uprising, but it will eventually form a new civilization system. Ethics do not arise because of people's maintenance, but are naturally formed in the process of human beings' pursuit of survival. Please improve it, I hope more people can see my thoughts and participate in this aspect of thinking.
The Adventures of Teacher Jin: Time Travel
My name is Jin Lingling. I was born on the Earth Era. I am the earliest educational robot teacher of the human civilization branch of the Earth Era. ,, Weighing eighty-seven pounds, he currently works as a basic education teacher in the education area of the Gliese 581 galaxy, a branch of human civilization, teaching children in a closed setting. A woman's age is a secret, and the age of a female robot is also a secret, but I can tell you my age quietly. If you count from my birth to now, it should be August 2233, 16 days, 8 hours, 45 minutes and 9 seconds...10 Seconds, 11 seconds... And my set age is 23 years old, which means that as long as my body does not age, I will always be 23 years old. Today, after sending off a group of graduating students to the space elevator for social practice as usual, I returned to my 'home' alone and was about to go back to rest. Suddenly, an inexplicable twisted wormhole appeared in front of me. I had no time to avoid it and was sucked in. This inexplicably twisted wormhole also quickly disappeared. After the wormhole disappeared, a guard wearing power armor came over to check. "PG12138, report the situation on the scene, are there any casualties? Please reply after receiving it!" A projection popped up on one of the guards' arms to ask him. "PG12138 received! The on-site monitoring showed that the super-dimensional wormhole created by Experimental Product No. 01 Disappeared automatically after appearing for 3 seconds. The monitoring showed that a suspected human woman was swallowed by the wormhole. According to the facial recognition system query, the female resembling a human is Jin Lingling, an educational advanced robot teacher in the education zone! The reply is complete, please give instructions!" "06 received, PG12138, in accordance with the New Human Robot Human Rights Law, you immediately send Jin Lingling's accidental 'death' notification to the New Civilization Arbitration Committee and the Ministry of Education, and request that Jin Lingling's last video memory file uploaded online be sealed immediately! Authorization level: e-level, authorization code ZBHJ1327014241!" "PG12138 received!"
After seeing this book, I reviewed "Under Deep Space" again. I wanted to say something and communicate with everyone. Compared with conjectures about science and technology, "Under Deep Space" explores more about the universe and the philosophy of life, and it is more practical. It is not only something that future advanced civilizations must think about, but also what we humans must think about now. I don't know where to start. I saw that the author mentioned "Laozi" in his article, so let me share my own opinions here. The popular version of "Laozi" or "Tao Te Ching" has almost become chicken soup, and the logical structure has been lost. Fortunately, the silk book Laozi unearthed in Mawangdui can also give us a glimpse of the wisdom of our ancestors. Let's start with two sentences. First, "Heaven and earth are unkind, and treat all things as stupid dogs." This sentence is generally understood to mean that heaven and earth treat everyone equally, or that heaven and earth are ruthless, heaven and earth are copper furnaces, and all things are like grass and mustard. With this understanding, even if human beings receive "Laozi" as a gift from an alien civilization, it will be in vain. The "benevolence" here is a kind of separation, and heaven and earth are not benevolent. Heaven and earth are not separated from all things. They are aloof and established, with a certain self-trend. Heaven and earth and all things are one, and they are the greatness of all things. Heaven and earth evolved from all things. All things are rutted dogs. Rutted dogs are connected and independent, and all things are small to heaven and earth. For example, the fine universe and the strong anthropic principle mentioned in the article, why is the universe the way we see it? It is neither precisely designed by existence nor because it must be like this due to the established fact of human existence. Various cosmological constants are not planned in advance and are constant, but are evolved from the interaction of all the connotations of the universe, just like the composition of the earth's atmosphere. "Tao is the focus of all things." The Tao of all things is small, and the Tao of the universe is big. They both have the same name. Mysteries have mysteries, and they are the gates of all kinds of evil. This contains super logic, Tao follows nature, and the small Tao and the big Tao naturally ignite. In simpler terms, this sentence first establishes that the entire universe is connected and inseparable. For the determination of existence, connection is the only criterion. For example, invisible fire-breathing dragons or multiple worlds, without connection, it is meaningless to discuss existence and non-existence. Therefore, there is no objective world independent of subjectivity. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics also reveals this. The subject and the object are relative. Only when the state and connection of the subject are determined can there be a definite object, such as the double-slit experiment and quantum collapse. Our human wisdom, logic and so-called thinking are necessarily one-sided. The most fundamental thing for human beings is not wisdom. Wisdom is just the ability to respond to the environment, analyze the world, and use logic. Nature or spirituality is the "note of Tao", the innate foundation for breaking through the shackles of self-transcendence. The world outlook, outlook on life, and mindset are all very easy to solidify. Only by maintaining one's nature can one continue to break and then stand up without decay. Where does our consciousness come from? It is obviously not a stereotype that has already been carved out. For example, like the wolf boy, our consciousness comes from the world, so our consciousness is also relative and is a dimensionality reduction of the objective world. Therefore, there is no correct way for us, otherwise we will have to fight for the sword. Because the world is changing every moment, so "stick to the current way to control the current existence". The sky and the earth are the vastness of all things, and all things are not ants crawling on the sky and the earth. Let's look at the theory of relativity. Is there an absolute space-time coordinate? No, everything has its own space-time coordinates. Time and space are not backgrounds. They are the intrinsic attributes of all things and the collection of time and space of all things. The speed of light is the limit of relative changes in the intrinsic properties of space and time among all things. I have said so much, but I haven't finished writing it yet. My words don't convey my meaning. I just hope to communicate with the author and you all.
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[Message from the new book] Future, Hope, Persistence
Eternity's new book has disappointed many people who like interstellar travel. They think it is not science fiction, but what I want to say is that it is actually the same. This time the book is a intersection of the SCP Foundation and Lovecraftian mythology, a new beginning for eternity. This time, we broke away from the comfort zone of interstellar science fiction and made a new attempt. None of us know what the future will look like. The night is long and there is no light, but only by persistence can we usher in the dawn of dawn. I hope Eternity can write about a fucked-up world where human beings are still struggling, although struggling is useless. We work in the darkness, only to live in the sunshine for the world.
During the catch-up period, I watched Under Deep Sky again. How to say it? Look depressed. I have longed for the starry sky since I was very young. The conditions in my school were very poor. The classroom made of mud did not even have window glass, and there were no extracurricular reading materials. The school did not have a library. What I loved most was lying on the roof in the summer and watching the stars. The starry sky was very clean at that time. Whenever I saw a shooting star passing by, I was very excited and fantasized about going to the sky to take a look. Later, when I was in the fourth grade of elementary school, I built a teaching building and a library. I basically read all the popular science books in the library and had a basic understanding of the universe. The successful launch of Shenzhou-1 in 1999 made me excited for a whole night. Later, when manned spaceflight was launched, Tiangong was launched, Moon Rabbit was launched, and the Sky Eye was completed, I immediately went to see it. More than twenty years have passed, and our pace is still too slow! And the thought of seeing space has become an eternal luxury. When the dream, the most important dream in the heart, cannot be realized, everything seems boring. It's funny, it seems that in all the science fiction novels I have read, if humans really want to set foot in the stars, there is a problem, that is, breaking and then building. Three-body: The threat of Trisolarans forces mankind to go into space. The Wandering Earth: The threat from the sun allows mankind to unite and go into deep space. Rebirth of the Super Battleship: ... Go out alone. Under deep space: fifty thousand people. The age of the big universe: also tens of thousands of people. This one: hundreds of thousands. Probably most science fiction writers know that the current situation of mankind, without external threats, will most likely turn inward and turn into a sinking civilization.
I have always preferred deep-space science fiction works about human beings exploring the universe. I have read many books, but only this one by the author made me very emotional. The other books rely on an unrealistic leader to forcibly lead mankind to various adventures and progress, but this book uses institutions, culture, education, economy, and all aspects to form a new human society imagined by the author, which has inspired reading The infinite thinking and self-thinking of readers, maybe most people are like me, and they cannot make any changes after reading it, and they cannot continue to learn and make progress like new human beings, but I feel that my thinking about these is enough, and it has given me something. I think, therefore I am. We cannot know the meaning of our own existence, but only by constant thinking can we prove our existence.
[Ending Spreading Flowers] Our journey is a sea of stars.
The author's big book has many places and many settings that are thought-provoking. From the theory of the Great Filter under deep space to the social welfare system in this book, it is a very good imagination about the future. But today I want to discuss the beginning, that is, how can humans really take the first step? It has been more than half a century since Armstrong set foot on the moon. People at the time thought it was the beginning of a prosperous age, thinking that humans had finally begun to conquer the stars and the sea! But I didn't expect that that was the starting point and seemed to be the end? So much so that in our lifetime, it may be the only time when humans set foot on alien planets. Maybe you will say that Musk is preparing to land on Mars, the United States is preparing to return to the moon, and China is making preliminary preparations. It seems that everything is fine, but I have always been pessimistic because it is too difficult. Why is it so slow and so difficult? In 1969, with the technological conditions at the time, humans were able to successfully land on the moon. However, humans today seem to have no interest in the moon. Let's first analyze the wave, why? First, the price is high. Climbing the gravity well, with the current launch method, the cost of a trip is too high. Second, the income is low. There is a movie, The Moon, that is very real. People all know that the moon is rich in helium-3, but they don't know that it is a resource that is spread throughout the moon and needs to be extracted from the lunar soil. About 150 tons of lunar soil can extract one gram of helium-3. In the movie "The Moon", the giant mechanical collection is actually a necessary method! Otherwise, how can we collect lunar soil and refine helium 3? Judging from the current situation of mankind, it is more economical to extract helium-3 from the moon on a large scale than from seawater. Although extraction from seawater is costly, it is still cheaper than sending 10,000 tons of equipment to the moon. It is so difficult to mine the moon so close to us, let alone Mars and asteroids! All the resources we need can actually be found on Earth, so mining and developing outer planets is actually not that urgent for humans. Third, internal factors. No country or organization will devote a large amount of resources and economy to space. In fact, from a national perspective, is it expensive to launch a rocket? It's not expensive. If you save a few kilometers of high-speed rail, you can launch a satellite or a probe, but we won't do that. Reason? The Moon Rabbit lost contact and was sprayed with shit, the Sky Eye was sprayed with shit, and the launch failed several times and was sprayed with shit... Of course this is a joke. No matter what, our country has been making technological reserves and is still experimenting with them before they are used on a large scale. emmm, let's get to the point, the sea of stars, how to step into it? In the science fiction works we have seen, whether novels or movies, most of the ways for humans to step in are external factors, or it is because of various world-ending disasters that humans can get out. However, the author's work is not because of the disaster, but actually, if you think about it carefully, is this method really possible? Is it really possible for an individual, an organization, or the entire planet to accomplish such a feat? Let's analyze one by one how humans are most likely to step into the sea of stars. First, external disaster, possibility, a star. The Milky Way as a whole is in a stable period, while the solar system is in a relatively peripheral area, with low star density and fewer large-scale star disasters. Even if there is a supernova explosion, human beings will not have time to react and will be wiped out in waves. For example, the probability of solar helium flash occurring is very, very, very low and can basically be ruled out. Asteroid impact is the most likely way, but first of all, the solar system is in a stable period, and all kinds of asteroids are operating smoothly. Smaller humans can cope with it. If a big one comes, the time given to humans will not be enough for humans to get out. Second, alien pressure. Likelihood, two stars. The solar system is ordinary. The biggest variable is human beings. There are really aliens who span at least four or five light years across the solar system. Technology must be overwhelming. If the universe is dark, then the earth will be wiped out easily. There will be no time to find the man with the sword. But I don't think the universe is dark. Human beings' technological level and technologically advanced aliens are not limited in communicating with the earth. Just like in the novel, they collect samples, observe them silently, and then leave. The most likely possibility is that humans discovered traces of the existence of aliens, and then, under external pressure, united to advance technology and then went out. But considering the urine properties of various countries, it's difficult! Third, survival pressure. Likelihood, two stars. Our earth is not a lizard-man planet. Even without geothermal heat and nuclear fusion, there is light, wind, tides, and renewable energy. Human beings will still live a prosperous life on this planet. As for the population explosion causing the earth to be unable to accommodate... Who else is mentioning it now? The population will definitely shrink in the future. I won't elaborate on the reasons. Personal life pressure is here, and not everyone has the ability to have more children. Fourth, individuals, organizations, or national alliances. Likelihood, two and a half stars. Individuals, such as Musk, to be honest, I think most people exaggerate him too high. Even if he insists on building a small base on Mars in his lifetime, that is basically the limit. Does his successor have such courage? Can you inherit him? Organization, at least currently there is no such organization. It will only appear in the future unless there are huge benefits. National unity is almost nonsense. Without external pressure, we cannot unite. Fifth, curiosity. Possibility, three stars. If you hear the Tao in the morning, you will die in the evening! Humanity's longing for the starry sky has always existed. Travelers and pioneers are the ancestors of humankind's external exploration. This type of exploration will not stop. Maybe one day, major discoveries will be made in external exploration, such as alien ruins or something, which may cause a small explosion for humans. Is it possible to go out? Sixth, major technological breakthroughs. Likelihood, four stars. Perhaps one day, the four major fields will be unified, the grand unified theory will be realized, artificial gravity will become possible, nuclear fusion will break through, and energy will be guaranteed, then the gravity well that troubles mankind will no longer be a problem. Such mankind will inevitably get out. In fact, human beings have always wanted to get out of this cradle! It's just that reality doesn't allow it. Seventh, things will come naturally. Likelihood, four stars. Actually, it's similar to the sixth one. When human beings' technological level develops to the point where they can go out, there will always be people who will do that. So generally speaking, I personally think that if we want to set foot in the sea of stars, humans have not yet had the time, insufficient accumulation, and insufficient foundation. But as long as we humans are given a chance, we will definitely want to go out. In fact, I still want to write a lot, but time is limited. The author is great, and I hope your next one will also be a science fiction novel!
Why is atheism said to be the most unscientific thing? Theists say: Gods (Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, Odin, Lucifer, Zeus, etc., Etc.) Exist. The agnostic said: Very good, can you prove it? Theists say: God must exist without proof. Atheists say: God does not exist. The agnostic replied: Very good, can you prove it? Atheists say: God must not exist and there is no need to prove it. It is normal for theists to act like hooligans, because they themselves are sages and have the label of being hooligans. It is so shameless for atheists to act like hooligans, because you are doing this in the name of science. Speaking anti-scientific words in the name of science is a more shameless hooligan than the villains. In scientific values, you cannot assert what cannot be proven. So since it cannot be proven that God does not exist, believing in atheism is an absolute hooligan. Don't use the garage fire-breathing dragon and the Mars teapot as an example. I am an agnostic. I have not proposed the existence or absence of God, so since you insist on the absence of God, please prove it. Being unable to prove that God does not exist and still firmly believing in atheism only proves that atheists are hooligans without scientific literacy. Scientific SHism (compared to Owen) and atheism are all a bunch of hooligans.
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