Novels like A Rose with Thorns
Books Chinese readers most often put in the same booklists as A Rose with Thorns, best match first.
- 51 Help! Whose Little Brother Is Trying to Hit His Big Sister's Hands? 救命呀！谁家的弟弟要打姐姐手手 Help! Whose little brother is trying to smack his big sister’s hands? 13Reads—Score—14d adds
- 52 A Hard-Won Love (Reverse Love Fanfiction) 难生恨（逆爱同人） Hard to Let Go (Reverse Love Fanfiction) 9Reads—Score214d adds
- 53 I Consider It Fun 谨以为乐 When Cheng Yule first met Xie Jinxing, she had no idea he would change the course of her life. She was the kind of person who habitually hid inside her shell. She didn't talk about failing an interview, being under pressure, or feeling wronged. She thought bearing everything alone was mature, and that not bothering others was a sign of growing up. That was, until she met him. When she broke down, he would lay down three house rules for her over a video call. When her eyes were swollen from cryin 3.1kReads—Score20814d adds
- 54 My Sweet Wife Won’t Behave, So Mr. Mo Has to Gently Persuade Her 小甜妻不乖，莫总只好循循善诱 Sharp-tongued, scheming CEO vs. softhearted, troublesome heiress They’re each other’s first and only. “Miss, from now on, this is your home.” The CEO rubbed the young girl’s head. The girl stubbornly lifted her chin. “I want to go home. This isn’t my home. I want to go back to my own home.” The CEO didn’t get angry when she made a fuss. He simply indulged her, saying, “Since Miss wants me to go to your house and look after you, that’s fine too.” He’d quite like to see just how comfortable the Sh 338Reads6.6Score10114d adds
- 55 Deliberately Making You Worry About Me 故意惹你心疼 When she was young, her two older brothers cared for her devotedly, but she was also trapped beneath layers of rules and expectations. She had to rein in her natural spirit, and spent half her life unable to act freely. Yan Zheng breaks the monotony and oppression of her life. In their spare time, he encourages her to let loose and have fun; when trouble comes, he teaches her that she doesn't have to suffer in silence or compromise. Little by little, he helps her grow into an independent person. 233Reads—Score—14d adds
- 56 The Bright Moon Is Within Reach, but the Mischievous Girl Gets Scolded Again 明月可掇，调皮丫头又被训了 Xiao Wanting is the Xiao family’s one and only beloved young lady. With two older brothers and parents who spoil her, she grew up mischievous and unruly, and only her eldest brother could keep her in line. Who would have thought that when she was three, she would meet nine-year-old Shao Jiamo, the only son of the Shao family? She thought she would finally escape her brothers’ scolding and enjoy a freer life, but instead, someone else came along to lecture her. At the same time, though, she gaine 727Reads6.9Score10014d adds
- 57 When Master Lifts a Hand, the Cat's Skin Trembles 师父一伸手，猫皮抖三抖 [Nurturing + Teaching] [A radiant, brilliant master × a little troublemaker brimming with demonic energy] Song Xiangjun wants to tell the little cub hiding in the rabbit hole, “Your master has come to take you home.” But she doesn’t dare, because the last time she said those words, she slit the child’s throat with her own hands. … Given another chance to forge their bond, Song Xiangjun raises the little cub all over again in this life, healing every hurt and grievance. And while enjoying their 858Reads8.0Score—14d adds
- 58 Behave, and I Won't Hit You 乖一点，就不打了 Soft, adorable sweetheart vs. ruthless big shot Forced love | Age gap | Size difference | Absolute control | Both leads sexually inexperienced After the Shen family fell, Shen Rao went from a pampered heiress to a girl cast into the mire overnight. Just before she plunged into hell, the all-powerful man rescued her, only for her to fall into another abyss. “If you want to be with me, you have to follow my rules.” “Naughty little thing. You need to be punished!” He was domineering and controlling 6.9kReads9.0Score62314d adds
- 59 The Well-Behaved Little Darling: Why Does She Cry the Moment You Coax Her? 装乖妹宝，怎么一哄就哭 [Cool, aloof girl who pretends to be sweet x refined, fatherly CEO] [Sweet romance + older man + mild discipline + push and pull for control + monogamous, both each other's first] "Big brother, I'm very well-behaved." Online, Su Ningle sweet-talked Lu Yanbai and acted like a good girl. When they met in person for the first time, she didn't recognize him and treated him rudely. "I refuse to go on a blind date with you!" The cool, elegant man replied calmly, "What a coincidence. I had no such int 20.5kReads7.5Score2k14d adds
- 60 Xing and Ye Are Both Way Too Powerful!! 星叶两位大佬太强了！！ [The title was made up on a whim!] [A heads-up: There are quite a few typos, and they can't be fixed now that the story is complete. If that bothers you, please don't read!] [I recommend starting with the middle volume. The first volume isn't very well written. (˃ ⌑ ˂ഃ )] An interstellar family with twenty-three younger brothers and one younger sister. (In the Night Palace, everyone except Ye Mingyuan shares the same father but has a different mother.) [Everyone is a big-brother-obsessed siscon] 68Reads—Score—14d adds
- 61 I Can Keep Her in Line and Make Her Heart Flutter 管得住调皮宠得了心动 Any resemblance is purely coincidental. My new work is out! You can find it on Tomato Novel. I hope you enjoy it. Your support is what keeps me writing, and I'll do my best to tell every story well! 1.5kReads—Score10214d adds
- 62 Three Visits to the Mortal World, One Place at the Table 三过人间，谋一席 [Discipline + henpecked husbands + husbands kept in line by their wives + gender-bender] The pure and immaculate Shen Yan is like a narcissus carefully tended by Liu Jun. Li Mei, who transmigrated here, gets bitten by the tiger while trying to tame it. How will Zhao Wan, after suffering a devastating betrayal, find the confidence to live again? How will Yunping, manager of the Chen family pharmacy, win the heart of Jingtang, whose medical brilliance rivals Hua Tuo’s? Love is a dazzling adventure 17Reads—Score—14d adds
- 63 Grand Tutor, I Just Want a Diploma 太傅，我只想混个文凭 Grand Tutor, I Just Want to Get a Diploma 39Reads—Score—14d adds
- 64 After We Reunited, My Ex Told Me to Face the Wall 重逢后我竟被前任要求面壁 After We Reunited, My Ex Actually Told Me to Stand Facing the Wall 36Reads—Score—14d adds
- 65 Daddy-Type Boyfriend: Mr. Guo and His Little Darling 爹系男友：郭先生和他的小宝贝 A true-to-life story, with a dad-type boyfriend, five years older than her. He’s both her husband and her big brother, and he has to manage every little thing. Sweet and doting, no angst, and it’ll be updated regularly! 30Reads7.3Score—14d adds
- 66 Reporting to Young Master Ji: Young Master Chu Is Addicted to Spoiling His Wife! 报告季少，褚少宠妻成瘾！ [Everyone's darling + married first, fell in love later + mutual salvation] This is not the original synopsis!!! The world is truly wondrous. In a vast sea of people, three strangers from completely different walks of life had an extraordinary encounter. Though they had nothing to do with each other, fate bound them tightly together. He was her domineering CEO husband; he was her second older brother, a teacher. One gave her a wonderful life; the other helped her return to school and learn again 22Reads6.5Score—14d adds
- 67 The Beloved in Mr. Zhou’s Palm 周先生的掌心娇 This is a companion novel to Taming the Little Drama Queen, telling the story of Zhou Zhou and Su Meng. Zhou Zhou dotes on Su Meng and guides her as she grows, gentle yet domineering. But Su Meng feels safest when someone keeps her close to their heart. Su Meng is clever and has plans of her own. She doesn't depend on others or follow blindly. Zhou Zhou's love is always sweetly instructive and tenderly indulgent, with his favoritism tucked into every limit he sets. A grown-up romance about growi 373Reads—Score—14d adds
- 68 After Our Arranged Marriage, My Fiancé Keeps Me in Line on His Lap 联姻后，被未婚夫按在腿上管教 Sunny, bubbly heiress ✕ powerful top-tier big shot of the capital's elite circle [Marriage first, love later + two wealthy families + devoted romance + possessive, fatherly male lead] Fu Jingxi thought their engagement meant they would treat each other with respect and build a quiet life together. But after moving in with Si Yanli, she discovered that the dignified, refined big shot would help her put on her shoes and personally cook for her, looking after her in every possible way. Like a f 13.8kReads8.8Score1k14d adds
- 69 The Cute Wife of the Black-Bellied Regent Is Soft and Fragrant 白切黑摄政王的小萌妻又软又香 [Sweet romance + devoted couple + transmigration] Shen Xinbao, a construction tycoon who transmigrated by accident to another world, had planned to enjoy life as a rich second-generation kid there. But the emperor grew suspicious that her father’s achievements overshadowed his own. A single imperial edict forced her to set off for the capital as a hostage. Before she even arrived, she was ambushed along the way. Fortunately, the handsome man from the illustrated story... Ahem! The hero! S 155Reads—Score—14d adds
- 70 The CEO's Mischievous Little Wife 霸道总裁的调皮小娇妻 A mischievous, adorable girl takes advantage of a man's drunkenness to boldly draw a huge turtle on his face, then makes a quick getaway. When he sobers up, he flies into a rage and swears he'll catch her and, uh, “spank her.” At a banquet, he holds her close, their cheeks brushing as he murmurs, “Wife, you ran away after doing something wrong, hmm? I'll have to punish you.” He scoops her up and strides away... 141Reads—Score—14d adds
- 71 Brother, Thank You for Coming Back 哥哥，谢谢你回来 My new story is out! You can find it on Tomato Novel. I hope you’ll enjoy it. Your support keeps me writing, and I’ll do my best to tell every story well! 182Reads6.8Score10314d adds
- 72 The Ruler in My Palm, My Author Master 掌心戒尺我的作者师父 Reborn three years in the past, I became the biggest fan and apprentice of Lin Sitong, a bestselling author. She said she would teach me to write strictly. If I failed an assignment, she’d rap my knuckles; if I slacked off, I’d have to stand facing the wall for ten minutes. I obediently accepted my punishments on the surface, but secretly I was grinning: This time around, I’d make sure to protect my author and mentor. Then I wrote about a ring in an assignment, one I shouldn’t have known about. 204Reads—Score—14d adds
- 73 What Happens Next After the Iceberg Hero Spoils His Playful Little Princess 冰山男主宠爱皮皮小公主后续 My new work is out! You’re welcome to read it on Tomato Novel. I hope you’ll enjoy it. Your support gives me the motivation to write, and I’ll do my best to tell every story well! 29Reads—Score—14d adds
- 74 Stop! Her Majesty Knows She Was Wrong, but Won’t Change 别打了！娘娘她知错不改 [Alternate History + Discipline + Humiliation + Light Palace Intrigue + Light Ensemble Cast + Not Both Chaste + Not a Strong Female Lead] [Content Warning: Physical abuse, but not emotional abuse + A troublemaking female lead who never learns her lesson] Wrong tags! Not angsty! The Great Jing Dynasty is bound by strict rules of etiquette. * Yu Yanqiu, daughter of a minor official, has been in the palace for three months. She is strikingly beautiful, with captivating almond-shaped eyes, but her n 49Reads—Score114d adds
- 75 Growing Toward the Sun: Campus Story 向阳生长校园篇 Campus life + sibling bond + study supervision + teacher-student relationship + no central pairing, with a focus on psychological guidance. (Some elements are adapted from real experiences.) Qi Wei: An associate professor at a university, a polished intellectual who is calm and steady, disciplined and self-restrained, cool on the outside but warm within, both strict and gentle. Qi Xin: A student, somewhat introverted, hardworking and ambitious, timid at first but gradually growing brave and str 84Reads8.1Score—14d adds
- 76 The Prince’s Mischievous Little Princess 王爷的调皮小王妃 Mo Qingqing transmigrated by a twist of fate into the body of Mingyue Kingdom's only princess. She had wanted for nothing, enjoyed the love of her parents and the affection of her brothers, and lived a rich and comfortable life. She never imagined that when the two kingdoms arranged a marriage exchange, she would have to travel far to Mengxi Kingdom and marry its cold-faced prince for the sake of its countless people. On their wedding night, however, the prince left her alone in an empty bridal 656Reads7.5Score10014d adds
- 77 He and the Math Teacher Are in Cahoots 他和数学老师是一伙的 ✔ A heroine who struggles with math ✔ A levelheaded couple Before meeting Chen Wen, An Yue was one of the best in Huailing City’s “Pacific Ocean” when it came to math. After meeting Chen Wen, she was fighting to survive in a dried-up “basin.” “Dare to zone out in class right under my nose?” “You’re not eating until you finish that…” … Chen Wen was An Yue’s deskmate, her math tutor and supervisor, and the person she had a crush on. In her second year of high school, An Yue got a new math teacher, 408Reads8.2Score—14d adds
- 78 A Small Lesson to Keep You in Line 小惩以戒 [Older man + growing-up romance + discipline + a little angst + gentle restraint + reunited after a breakup] A kitten slowly growing up × a gentle, restrained fox · If you ask Gu Nian'an when she's most nervous, the answer is always: when Teacher Shen is angry. · “Are you admitting your mistake, or accepting your punishment?” Teacher Shen is always asking impossible questions like that. · “‘If we share this snowfall today, then we can say we've shared a lifetime of gray hair!’ This must be the u 2.4kReads—Score12214d adds
- 79 I Got My Husband, and Now I’m Getting Carried Away 追夫成功后我飘了 [She Pursues Him, Then He Pursues Her + Wife-Obsessed Husband + Secret Crush] The mountain trees have branches, and the trees have boughs. I love you, but you don’t know! The two had grown up together and were a perfect match in everyone else’s eyes. They should have naturally become husband and wife, but sibling-like affection got in the way. One was determined to marry him, while the other refused at all costs! All Ning Yue had ever wanted was to marry the star of her life. She threw away her 197Reads—Score—14d adds
- 80 Tales of the Spirit Beasts 妖灵奇语 The wolf clan’s people never imagined that after his latest hunt, their king would bring home a little rabbit demon who had only just learned to take human form! Wolf Citizen A: “Have you heard? This little rabbit demon could take human form while still an infant!” Wolf Citizen B: “What? Is that really true? Aren’t all demons in the demon realm adults before they can transform? Even our king didn’t take human form until he was around ten, an occurrence so rare it happens once in a century. It sh 337Reads—Score—14d adds
- 81 Mr. He’s Private Disciplinarian 贺先生的私藏管教 [BG + HE + Wealthy Family + 11-Year Age Gap + Guiding Romance + Fatherly Male Lead + Marriage of Convenience] [Possessive, Fatherly Powerhouse | Intense Push and Pull | Strict at First, Then Doting | Mutual Healing] The 34-year-old, refined and brooding head of the He family × the 23-year-old, gentle and sweet Gu Li Under a one-year marriage contract, Gu Li moves into the He family residence on Beishan. The vast estate runs by strict rules, and He Songyan makes all the decisions. He prepares a 10.5kReads8.4Score96814d adds
- 82 The Special Policewoman's Ruler 特警姐姐的戒尺 Their parents leave to work away from home, entrusting thirteen-year-old troublemaker Shen Xingwan to her two older sisters. The eldest, twenty-five, is a tough-as-nails SWAT officer who believes that “freedom only exists within the rules.” The second, twenty-one, is a gentle medical student struggling to balance her principles with her doting nature. Skipping school, lying, staying out all night... Each time the younger sister crosses a line, she faces a reprimand as unyielding as steel from th 1.2kReads6.9Score10914d adds
- 83 Love Under Discipline 管教下的爱 He is a ruthless CEO who commands the business world with a wave of his hand, and a strict older brother who keeps his younger sister under his wing. She is a high school student living in her brother's shadow. She fears the chill in his frown, yet craves the warmth hidden behind his scoldings. Trophies and punishments, promises and reprimands: in this spacious, empty villa, the sharpest words and tenderest concern pull at each other again and again. It turns out that behind every unfeeling act 538Reads8.1Score10014d adds
- 84 The Year of Knowing and Doing 知行之年 (Discipline + Male Lead Suffering + Family Law) A century-spanning family saga set within a great ancestral home, tracing an heir’s struggle between tradition and change. Born into the century-old Xie family, the eldest legitimate son, Xie Zhixing, had his fate decided from the moment he entered the world. The clan’s harsh family laws, the weight of ancestral rules, and his father’s cold gaze defined his entire childhood. Every bit of forbidden play and every spark of independent thought earned 71Reads—Score—14d adds
- 85 The Regent Prince Is Hard to Placate 摄政王不好哄 [Cool and Distant Regent × Sweet, Gentle Maid, Both Pure] Two years ago, Yuan Wu, a kitchen maid who tended the stove, became the Regent’s bedchamber attendant by a twist of fate. Yuan Wu thought all she had to do was keep him company over meals and drinks and share his bed. Who knew the Regent would make her learn to read and write, ride horses, and shoot arrows, then personally discipline her whenever she did poorly? Everyone said the Regent was cold and heartless. Only Yuan Wu knew that every 6Reads—Score—14d adds
- 86 Naughty, Little Sis? One Punishment Should Set You Straight 妹宝不乖？罚一下就好了 Guidance and discipline + dominant Daddy type + correction and comfort + henpecked husband + unconventional pursuit of a wife, both pure-hearted, happy ending Zhu Jing lost her memory and was taken home by Lu Chengyue, a powerful figure in Jiang City. To survive, she read domineering CEO novels every day, studying everything from stand-in lovers to the beloved woman of the past and life-saving benefactors. Then she did the opposite, using what she learned to get the better of the powerful man. H 6.3kReads—Score50314d adds
- 87 One Glance from Her Cool Master, and the Disciple Turns into an Obedient Little Darling 清冷师父眼一瓢，徒弟秒变乖宝宝 Also known as The Cool Master Glances Over, and Her Disciples Instantly Become Good Kids [Everyone plays matchmaker, no romance, two female leads. Don’t read this by mistake!] [A haughty, troublemaking disciple × a free-spirited, openly biased master] That day, on a pitch-black night filled with despair, a pair of hands as white as jade pulled her out of the abyss and carefully guided her every step of the way, helping her grow and opening the knots in her heart. As her master, she promised to b 568Reads8.4Score10114d adds
- 88 Su Wanqing's Transmigrated Tragic Romance 苏婉清的穿越虐恋 The modern-day heroine transmigrates into the body of a concubine-born daughter of the prime minister, becoming entangled with a powerful regent. Because of a misunderstanding, the regent forces her to marry him and take up residence in his manor. Struggling to survive there, she discovers that the regent has someone else in his heart, his unattainable first love. As they test each other, they gradually fall for one another, but their misunderstandings continue to deepen. The heroine is framed a 761Reads—Score—14d adds
- 89 My Senior Keeps Punishing Me 学长总罚我 [Dance student heroine + choreography student hero + henpecked husband + keeping watch] “The most beautiful kind of romance is being at my loveliest when I’m young, and having you there to capture it.” Shen Nian and Song Jian met because of a photograph. Shen Nian never imagined that what she had been holding on to was someone else’s regret. When regret finds a way to be redeemed, they can save each other. “Shen Nian, you have to hold your head high out there, but let your guard down when you’re 1.5kReads6.8Score10614d adds
- 90 Severe Attachment: I’ll Only Be a Good Kid for You, Sir 重度依赖，只做先生的乖孩子 [The rating is low because it just appeared and few people have rated it] One couple, both virgins + discipline and growth + dual perspectives + healing [Daddy, 11-year age gap + guiding lover + salvation + powerful man humbles himself] [Severe anxiety: Lia Li An'an × rock-steady at heart: Lucas Lu Zheng] - At nineteen, Li An'an decided to die. Lucas was the one who found her and pieced her back together, bit by bit. The man stood in the rain, tilting the entire umbrella toward her. “Since you d 5.4kReads8.5Score39814d adds
- 91 The Big Bad Wolf’s Disguised Little Bunny 恶狼先生的伪装小白兔 [One-on-one romance, mutual firsts, sweet romance with a touch of angst, reunited after a breakup, healing each other] A girl’s youth should have been the brightest and most beautiful time of her life, but Mo Liuxia is dealt one unbearable blow after another. Her younger brother is seriously ill, and her mother dies in an accident. Forced to leave school and work to pay for her brother’s medical bills, she runs into obstacles everywhere because she is underage. Just as she is about to despair, 316Reads—Score—14d adds
- 92 The Palace Wall’s Little Troublemaker, Your Highness, Stop Hitting Me 宫墙小作精，太子殿下别打了 My name is Ming Huan. Father often says, "Our Huan'er must be joyful every year." Though I lost my mother when I was little, Father's love for me is so abundant it nearly overflows. Oh, right, I also have two older brothers. My eldest brother is a rising hero and a promising talent who accompanies Father into battle. My second brother is charming and has a remarkable gift for business, but firmly believes that wealth is merely something external. I'm different. I've sworn to become a little ri 48Reads6.8Score—14d adds
- 93 Reborn and on My Best Behavior, Yet Sir Still Wants to Punish Me 重生后乖得很，先生还要罚我 Everyone knows that the second daughter of the Wen family, who spent many years away from home, is coldhearted, ruthless, and indifferent. She sent her own father to prison, left her seriously ill mother bedridden, drove her older sister to jump off a building, and did every kind of wicked thing imaginable. After being reborn, Miss Wen turns over a new leaf. She’s sweet, obedient, and well-behaved. Until a man asks her, “Rongrong, are you good?” Miss Wen, with a hidden weapon tucked away, looks 6.9kReads8.5Score71514d adds
- 94 Deep in the Mist 雾色深处 A bold, spoiled heroine who’s timid underneath × a gentle, strict teacher who knows how to keep her in line. The contrast is irresistible, and fans of henpecked husbands should definitely give this a try! Xi Qingqing’s mother is a senior high school teacher, and her father is a university professor. Growing up in a family steeped in learning, Xi Qingqing is taking the college entrance exam for the second time at nineteen. Her mother wants her to get into the best university in the city, A Univer 498Reads—Score10314d adds
- 95 Disguised as a Man: Companionship and Love 女扮男装：陪伴与爱 [Jun Ya Literary Society] “A gentleman of humble grace, with a generous heart.” Yang Guang was born with a disability caused by polio. People regarded her as an ill omen and a bringer of bad luck. After her parents died, no relatives dared take her in, both because of her disability and because of their prejudice. A kind police officer sent her to live in an orphanage. Because of her excellent grades, she was admitted to a private school after disguising herself as a boy. She had hoped to carve 13Reads—Score—14d adds
- 96 There's No Curing You! The Little Wife Is Causing Trouble Again 治不了了还，小娇妻又闯祸了 [A doting, fatherly husband and his mischievous, pampered wife.] Characters Mu Yang: An orphan. His birth mother developed schizophrenia after giving birth, killed his father, and then jumped to her death. As an adult, he became an outstanding lawyer with two professional licenses and now teaches at a university law school. He may have a sour expression, but deep down he’s a hopeless romantic. Mu Si: A quirky, mischievous girl who is kind by nature but fiercely rebellious. A rich second-generat 1.3kReads8.4Score10214d adds
- 97 Young Master Lianhua 0: Book 23 怜花公子0第23本书 My new work is out! You can read it on Tomato Novel. I hope you'll enjoy it. Your support keeps me writing, and I'll do my best to tell every story well! 13Reads—Score—14d adds
- 98 Love and the Ruler Go Hand in Hand 爱与戒尺同行 [Light Discipline + Teacher-Student Affection] Xu Yao and Zhang Shuyi thought becoming Yang Yanxi’s class representatives would give them more chances to slack off, but they never expected it was all an illusion behind Yang Yanxi’s gentle exterior. No matter what “bad things” they did, the two of them could never escape Yang Yanxi’s all-seeing eyes. The former “wayward student” is now a teacher, and the little “wayward students” still have a lot to learn. 5.6kReads8.8Score30814d adds
- 99 Brother, Qingyi Was Wrong 哥哥，青衣错了 [Sweet romance / powerful hero / powerful heroine] Everyone has always thought she was the carefree, unconventional young Master Song, but in truth, she is a beautiful young woman who plays the fool to catch her prey. Disguised as a man, she thrives in the martial world, until she meets Shen Yanhe and keeps digging herself deeper into one misunderstanding after another! Shen Yanhe: “Let me hear you say something ridiculous again, and you’ll see what I do to you!” Song Qingyi replied, “Bro, that’ 88Reads8.4Score—14d adds
- 100 Bloodline Supremacy: My Sister's Ruler and Candy 血脉压制：姐姐的戒尺和糖 (Sisters + inspirational growth + school life + heartwarming healing) Older sister Ji Yunshu slapped some sense into her rebellious younger sister, who had dyed her hair yellow and was learning to scam people. “Ji Xingwan, I'm taking charge of your life!” From a rebellious punk who nearly ended up in jail to an outstanding graduate of a top university, every time the younger sister strayed, her older sister pulled her back onto the right path. “I don't expect you to be exceptional, but at least 1.9kReads7.0Score18014d adds
