
Eastern Jin Dynasty: I Don't Want to Be a Celebrity
东晋:我不做名士
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Your words immediately exposed the biggest stereotype in the historical literature of the Eastern Jin Dynasty - directly equating "talking celebrities" with "wastes", and describing the top nobles as a den of useless people who only take drugs and brag. This is not history at all, it is the author's lazy labeling method. First, let me make it clear to you: Wang Xie and other aristocratic families have never been "wastes who only know how to talk." You are absolutely right. The sons of the Eastern Jin Dynasty's noble families, the powerful men who served as generals and ministers, can even be said to hold most of the military and political lifeblood of the Eastern Jin Dynasty in their hands. - Langya Wang Family: Wang Dao was the founding prime minister, and Wang Dun was the Jingzhou shepherd with a heavy army. The two brothers supported half of the Eastern Jin Dynasty with their civil and military skills. Who is Wang Dun? A real warlord who has led troops in rebellion, how can he be a loser who can only talk? The later Wang Xun and Wang Hong were also ruthless figures in the court. They could not only write well, but also play political battles. - Xie family of Chenjun: Needless to say, Xie An was the commander-in-chief of the Battle of Feishui. He relied on Xie Xuan's Beifu soldiers to win the battle of national destiny. Xie Xuan himself is the founder of the Beifu Army. He is a real and famous general, and he does not make a living by just talking. The sons of the Xie family, Xie Shi and Xie Yan, are all capable of leading troops in war. - Not to mention the Huan family and Yu family, they are all families controlled by the military and government. The conclusion is simple: Talk is their social language and identity label, but it is by no means everything to them. The survival logic of these families is to "have both civil and military skills and be strong in both military and political affairs." If you don't know how to fight or engage in politics, you can't maintain your position as a powerful family for a century by just talking. Second, let's talk about the plot you complained about: the protagonist wants to lead troops, why does the family oppose it? You are absolutely right - a legitimate son of the Langya Wang family wants to take up a military position and lead troops to fight. The normal family reaction is not to "dislike him and not talk to him", but "to get what he wants". The reasons are very practical: 1. The power structure of the Eastern Jin Dynasty has always been that "the family controls the army" Wang, Xie, Huan, and Yu, which family does not rely on military power to speak for itself? Without military power, he did not even have the right to speak in the Eastern Jin Dynasty. If a legitimate son is willing to take up a military position and take charge of the military, it is a good thing for the family to expand its power and stabilize its status. How can it be suppressed? 2. The so-called "If you don't read Laozi and Zhuangzhuang, it's hard to talk" is not a treasonous thing at all Talk is a common skill of the gentry, but it is not the only way out. Wang Dun didn't like to talk all his life, but he still worked as a high official and held important military positions; Xie Xuan didn't like to talk when he was young, but he still had high hopes from his family. What the family objects to is never "not clear to talk about", but "ineffective". 3. Conflicts between concubine and concubine can occur, but using "not talking about it" as an excuse is too false My brother-in-law wants to seize the concubine, and uses "doesn't follow the ancestral system and doesn't like to talk about it" as an excuse. It seems reasonable, but in fact it is untenable. The families of the Eastern Jin Dynasty would never destroy a child just because he didn't like to talk. Instead, they would value him more because he could control the military and fight. This kind of plot of "the family forces the protagonist to become a celebrity, and the protagonist must become a soldier" is purely to create conflicts and forcefully portray the family as rigid, pedantic, and fools who do not understand real interests. 3. Why do the current Eastern Jin Dynasty literature like to write Wang Xie as a "talking waste"? To put it bluntly, the author is lazy and uses stereotypes to write exciting articles: 1. In order to create a sense of contrast: the protagonist is a "sober man of action", and the family and celebrities are "rotten waste", so that the protagonist's resistance seems reasonable and refreshing. 2. To save trouble: There is no need to check the real operating logic of the Eastern Jin Dynasty's clans, just use the template of "Decadent Nobles vs. Hard-working Protagonists", and readers can get the conflict at a glance. 3. In order to satisfy the feeling of pleasure: write the top nobles in history as rubbish. When the protagonist steps on them, the feeling of pleasure will come faster. But this way of writing is essentially a misunderstanding of history. Families like Wang Xie's ability to survive for hundreds of years in troubled times has never depended on talk, but on the ultimate control of power, military power, and interests. The real Langya Wang family would not despise a legitimate son just because he wanted to lead troops to fight, but would instead regard him as the hope of the family's future. This kind of plot of "the family forces the protagonist to become a celebrity" can only deceive readers who have not read history books. Anyone who knows a little about the history of the Eastern Jin Dynasty will find it ridiculously fake.
Talk about ideas
Judging from the introduction, I feel that I have gone a bit wrong. Since you are the legitimate son of the Wang family, you only need to show your ability and talent, and the family will do everything possible to pave the way for you. What you have to do at this time is never to do anything without leaving the family, but to think about how much help you can get within the family. As long as you get a big enough say in the family, those servants, subordinates, weapons, and logistics. There are also a lot of clan members who can fight for you. The basic disk is there. And you can rest assured when using such a person. He or she will be bound to you for both prosperity and loss. This kind of top-notch family already has top-notch resources. With these resources, I don't think it's necessary to go through the hardships. For those who are also the protagonists of the hell start in Wei and Jin Dynasties, it can be said that the protagonist of this book has never had such a wonderful start. Please cheer for me, cheer for me.
What kind of female channel thinking is the concubine competing for the position of the legitimate son? The mothers of the legitimate son are all from wealthy families, while the mothers of the concubine are mostly from humble backgrounds. Are the two comparable?
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It feels okay, but it doesn't feel good enough. The heroine You Xie Daoyun successfully attracted me like an eagle 🤓🤓🤓
Is your update volume really okay?
Clarify
To clarify, I never wanted to write down all the "celebrities" of that period as trash. After all, they were the majority of the intellectual class. Some people don't seem to understand the big dog's long comment, or after reading a few sentences, they feel that I have become a villain. This is a sign of not being responsible for myself. After all, he hadn't read the book I wrote at the time, and he only evaluated it after reading the introduction.
Author
I don't quite understand what the answer means.
New book for newcomers
Newbies and new books, please collect them, read them, and comment on them.
Author
Do all the novels you open have multiple female protagonists?
Author
Will you start novels with multiple female protagonists in the future?
Author
(Ming)'s novels should be added to Xu Miaoyun's (Ming) novels. Most of the reasons for reading (Ming)'s novels are almost all of the TV series Shanhe Yueming.
Guest
I'm already reading Kuo Jin, and I'm going to see if I'll be a guest in this one 😥
The Langya Wang family's situation is not easy to break.
Historically, since the deaths of brothers Wang Dao and Wang Dun, the Langya Wang family has continued to decline despite being a noble family. The whole process is an irreversible downward straight line. The Sima royal family's attitude towards the Wang family is to support but not trust the Wang family. If I remember correctly, Wang Yunzhi was the last person in the Wang family to control military power because the Langya Wang family had a criminal record (Wang Dun Rebellion). Although Wang Dao was involved in it and ended it, was there any estrangement and suspicion in the hearts of the Jin family? Do you think the Sima royal family would dare to take a gamble and grant Fang Zhen the high position and military power? Don't even think about gathering the Beifu army. Anyone can do it, but it is basically impossible for the Wang family. Can the same mistake of the Jin Dynasty be repeated again and again? The king and the horse share the world, they have influence in the central court, and they can also influence the military power in the local area. What do you want to do? It is estimated that the Jin Dynasty would rather the Huanwen family in Xifu became the dominant one than to put a "bomb" in Jingkou next to Jiankang. They bet that it would be bigger and then go on a long expedition to defeat Huanwen, rather than attack Jiankang nearby and cooperate with the outside to control the government. The background and environment of the Langya Wang family Because of his situation, he was destined to take the upper-level route. As long as he showed the idea of getting involved in local military power, he probably didn't need to come forward from the Jin Dynasty. The major noble families would be encircled and suppressed by Huan Wen. After all, the same scene almost changed dynasties, and they would have bad memories.