
Three Kingdoms: Persuade Liu Bei to Go to Lingnan and Plant Sugar Oranges
三国:劝刘备下岭南,种植砂糖橘
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Going south to Jiaozhou, the author is probably not from Guangdong and Guangxi. To put it bluntly, Jiaozhou in the late Han Dynasty did not even have the basis for separatist rule and hegemony. Compared with other states and counties, its infrastructure and population were not even a bit worse. Moreover, the climate at that time really did not support the development of the south.
Just by looking at the title of the book, you can tell that the author is a foreigner from the Three Kingdoms. He must be a powerful scholar. He is the local emperor of Jiaozhou. He has been running Jiaozhou for many years. The result depends on the transfer of Jiangdong. Jiaozhou is a barbarian land with too few Han people and no future for development.
Future generations are not as good as their ancestors series
Qin: I conquered Lingnan Western Han Dynasty: I conquered Baiyue Eastern Han Dynasty: Fortunately, I had General Fu Bo, Ma Yuan, to stabilize Lingnan Ma Yuan Bronze Pillar: The aid arrived at the intersection, and the bronze pillar was erected, which was the extreme boundary of the Han Dynasty Zhu Jun, Bu Zhi, Lu Dai:... Celebrities of the Tang and Song Dynasties: Being an official in Lingnan, you will survive nine deaths
Lingnan
The author makes a joke, Lingnan was only developed during the Southern Song Dynasty, and it gradually became prosperous in the Ming Dynasty. Moreover, there were chieftain rebellions in Guangxi and Sichuan during the Ming Dynasty. Where would you go to find death in the Han Dynasty? Have you been to Guangdong and Guangxi? Do you know how bad it was in ancient times? At that time, the land east of Jiangdong was a barbaric wilderness, let alone Lingnan. Most of the Han people in Lingnan were descendants of Qin's 400,000 frontier troops. If you want to develop, you must first attack the indigenous people. It is difficult to defeat the indigenous thieves. You haven't pacified the natives yet, I guess Cao Cao has unified them all, and Cao Cao still wants to thank you.
I haven't read the book, but the comments are much better than the book. The author is also very tough. He knows everything about Lingnan during the Three Kingdoms period 🙂
About Lingnan Development
Recently, there have been too many readers who have commented without reading the text. The author will explain it at the top. Brother, don't you just sit back and watch the success or failure of the Central Plains by occupying Lingnan for decades and hundreds of years of development! It is the development model of Jiaozhou + "Longzhong Dui". Chibi is fighting fiercely, but they are not going to capture Jingzhou. What do you think?
There's not much to say, unless I re-open a new book, this will be it. Jiaozhou versus the Han Dynasty is no different than Ding Zhen versus the Snow Leopard. It has no effect other than abstraction. Even the poor grasslands in the northwest are easier to develop than the resources in Lingnan. At least they can be grazed. Going to Lingnan can't even solve the mosquito bites, not to mention that the vast wilderness is full of savages. Even Youzhou is stronger than Jiaozhou. After all, Youzhou can raise cavalry to fight. In Jiaozhou, apart from catching monkeys in the mountains and living a savage life, there is no use in hoping that others will not come looking for them Forget it, it is a waste of time to say more, and I have already written about it. Unless I cut it off, what else can I do? If you don't understand history or geography and come to write historical fan fiction, I can only say that it is not as good as posting it and writing it blindly.
During the Three Kingdoms period, when they went to lead the South, at least half of Liu Bei's group died on the way.
If you want to have a hook, then Jiaozhou will be there. If there is no hook, Jiaozhou will have woolen yarn. I don't even know if the Han population is 10,000 households.
I will dedicate a chapter to briefly explain one thing: the landforms in the south of the Han Dynasty were significantly different from those of the Tang and Ming Dynasties. For example, Yunmengze was incredibly large at the time, and Jiaozhou was quite large and had a large population, but most of it was concentrated in the Guangxin area. The living environment and weather conditions in other places are not that simple. Only native people can adapt. In these changing times, why do these places have no sense of existence? I think there are several points. One is that it is far away from the Central Plains, whether by water or land, there are many dense forests and swamps. It may be a paradise, but if anything happens, it will not matter to you. The second is that production is insufficient, and the area of arable land is only a few places. The North China Plain understands everything, including artisan agriculture. The third is the humanistic relationship. Jiaozhou was a barbaric land in the Han Dynasty, and it was about etiquette culture. For example, in the Ming Dynasty, Guizhou was forced to return to its native land and there were many rebellions that lasted for hundreds of years. Only the changes of thousands of years and hundreds of generations can make these places develop. The migration of clothes to the south, the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms, and the separation of north and south are all development of these places. You may not have a direct sense of how bad the place was before, but you should know about the Three Gorges and the Yellow River. It's okay to take a look. Jiaozhou's founding foundation can only be traced back to one word. If it is not a dream after a thousand years, because at that time, any normal person would not go there, up to Zhao Tuo, there will be a Republic of China after a thousand years.
You can't read this novel just by looking at the title. The Eastern Han Dynasty went to Jiaozhou to farm and develop. Isn't this the same as asking people to go to Burundi, Africa, to develop, and then plot to plot in the Middle East? Do you think it is possible?
It's really cute to see the author chatting with the Confucians 🤭 Jiaozhou is not impossible, but the price/performance ratio is too low. Going there is basically equivalent to spending your whole life with the natives and giving up the possibility of fighting for world hegemony. You must know that what was lacking during the Three Kingdoms period was population, not land. If you want to develop Jiaozhou, you need to continue to invest and consume Han people. If you don't develop it and keep it as it was historically, it won't be of any help to you when you go north to fight for the Central Plains.
Just by looking at the title, you can tell that Liu Bei lost all his underwear when he was deceived. The transportation environment at that time was probably in ruins.
I didn't read the book, so I just talked about Liu Bei going to Jiaozhou (personal opinion). This is a place of refuge. Liu Bei went there. I don't think people with lofty ideals will think that he still has the ambition to clean up the world. The ambitious people under his command will also be scattered. There are also how many soldiers will die from the poisonous insect miasma along the way, and how long it will take to recover and suppress the foreign races.
Sugar oranges are not shelf-stable
Has the author ever learned about sugar oranges? This thing cannot be stored for a few days. With the transportation conditions in ancient times, it can only be thrown into the hands. I advise you to change it to Wogan. Wogan can be stored for 3 months without any damage.
In fact, the biggest problem when occupying Jiaozhou during the Three Kingdoms period was not the population, climate, etc. Listed by readers. The biggest problem is the human heart. At this time, Zhan Jiangdong could claim to be on the path of the overlord of Western Chu, thus rallying people's hearts. If you go to Sichuan, you can claim to be following the old wisdom of Han Emperor Gaozu, thus uniting people's hearts. When you go to Jiaozhou, which is now Guangzhou, Guangxi and Vietnam, what do you think of? That's right, it's Zhao Tuo. If Liu Bei went to occupy Jiaozhou at this time, his subordinates would probably think that Liu Bei was imitating Zhao Tuo and lost his enterprising spirit, which would most likely lead his team to disperse. Let's put it this way, whether the capital of the Southern Dynasties in later generations was Nanjing or Hangzhou was a very clear indication of a government's mentality.
When the author's brother arrived, officials in the Tang and Song Dynasties regarded being demoted and exiled to Lingnan as a dead end. "Meixun New Year is close to death, and Gao Lei and Dou Hua are afraid of it." This couplet is how officials in the Tang and Song Dynasties described Lingnan. If Liu Bei really wants to go to Lingnan to develop, believe it or not, except for a few of his best friends, everyone else will be gone within a month at most. Someone may even plan to dedicate his head to Cao Cheng, which is quite a petition.
I've read this book several times, and every time I read it I feel like it's awesome. I understand that I want to write some new routines, but I still feel that it is too outrageous to develop Jiaozhou with nothing. Three generations will develop, and in 50 years we will go to the north to unify the Central Plains, right? Liu Bei was still doing basic development and construction for his ancestors and grandchildren's Northern Expedition until his death. He died growing sugar oranges in the sugar orange fields, right?😅.
In the agricultural era, to compete for world supremacy, you have to have people and food, right? Run to Jiaozhou is a normal family. Who would invest in betting? ? The hilly landforms of the Pearl River Delta region are still a net input of food to this day, and their development is a dividend of the Age of Discovery. Rub the atomic bomb with your hands, otherwise you have no chance
We agreed to go south to farm, but you just brushed it off and started the Battle of Red Cliff exactly like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Are these sugar oranges grown? What's the use? How about writing something unique?
Unrealistic
Szd, unless the protagonist is the leader of a large local indigenous tribe from the beginning, if you want to rely on Liu Bei and a group of outsiders to develop Lingnan, how to communicate with the indigenous people, how to adapt to the local environment, how to educate the local indigenous people, etc..... These difficulties combined are comparable to ( )
Read the latest chapter. . . Cao Ren had a vanguard force of 100,000, and Cao Cao assembled an army of 300,000. . . Withdrawal and goodbye
Wouldn't it be better to write about the Battle of Chibi?
I feel like the Battle of Chibi is forced to be written. If I don't write about Chibi, I can't write it down. Cao Cao's 400,000-strong army insists on fighting a water battle instead of fighting Jiangling. The reason given is that the city of Jiangling is strong. Don't you think it's ridiculous? Don't you know how close the Han River is to Jiangling? Once Chibi was defeated, the Han River was blocked. As long as Liu Bei occupied Yicheng, Cao Cao's defeated army could only cross the mountains and return to the Central Plains. Why did the three parties fight in Chibi in history? Liu Bei occupied Jiangxia and Cao Cao basically occupied the remaining Jingzhou. Then they fought in Chibi. According to the analysis written by the author, Cao Cao fought a water battle next to Liu Bei's important town of Jiangling? Are you afraid that 400,000 troops will come back? Share the food together?
What did the author eat that damaged his brain? The sudden release of poison caught people off guard. Who is Sun Quan? He wants troops but no soldiers, and he wants territory but no territory. If you say cooperation, you can still understand. Ask Zang Ba to surrender to him? This is just like Wang Sicong asking Ma Yun to be his younger brother. Suddenly poisoning is a bit disgusting. Even if Zang Ba is not independent, why not leave Liu Bei to join him?
The current problem of slow plot
There are too many characters appearing in Jingzhou, and it takes a lot of words to establish the messy characters. What I thought at the time was to wait until the time of Red Cliff to explode. Now that the author has realized the mistake, he will update and push forward immediately! ! !
Post another chapter about the bad climate during the Three Kingdoms period.
At the end of the Han Dynasty and the Three Kingdoms period, the climate was a cold period. The climate was even better than it is now, and the climate was still suitable for human survival. The inconvenience was transportation and parasite problems, but parasites also existed in the Central Plains of Jingzhou. There was a famous official in the Central Plains who liked to eat fish and died of parasites. So don't say that Jiaozhou doesn't have a bad climate. The climate in Jiaozhou is much better than that in the Central Plains. The Central Plains is freezing cold, but Jiaozhou is warm and pleasant. Otherwise, why do you think Sun Quan wanted to divide Jiaozhou into Guangzhou? Just for ease of control. {"NickName":"Tangerine in the Three Kingdoms","UserId":437151672} can be posted with Easter egg stamps
At the invitation of a friend, I made a general card for the protagonist of this book.
Give it a try😍😍😍 {"NickName":"Sugar Orange in the Three Kingdoms","UserId":437151672}
You must vote for Liu Bei, hahaha, because there are two big experience packs for Cao Pi and Sun Shiwan. Cao Pi has a lot of blood and Sun has a long lasting life. Surrender to Cao Cao and defeat Liu, Guan, Zhang and Zhuge? What are you picturing?
Come on, it's quite innovative. Keep reading.
Next, let's see if we can quickly enter Shu to destroy Hanzhong, absorb Ma Chao's troops, and then occupy the entire Xichuan, dividing the world in half.