
Three Kingdoms: Ancestor of Hanzhong
三国:汉中祖
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Obviously the name Han Zhongzu reflects that the author does have some knowledge of the temple name, so why do some people still say that it was created randomly? The four best temple names are Tai, Gao, Zhong and Shi Liu Bang is Taizu and Emperor Gao, which means one person accounts for two Han Shizu Liu Xiu (mention here, Zhong is above Shi, so Liu Xiu should use Han Zhongzu, but it may be that he considered the lineage migration, so he used the next level Shizu) For the three great Han Dynasties, it is most appropriate to use Han Zhongzu. As for the founders, they were all created by the Ming Dynasty themselves. The highest and most orthodox ones are only the four temple names of Tai, Gao, Zhong and Shi. There are also some that I can't even distinguish between temple names and posthumous names, so I don't even bother to say them.
The character Adou in this book, as an immediate emperor and a soldier who has been directing wars all year round, actually dared not kill the Cao family for fear of the turmoil in the Central Plains before the world was settled, and would rather leave the hidden danger to future generations. This behavior can be called cowardly. Those are rebels. Since the success of the rebellion means that the whole family becomes relatives of the emperor, it is completely normal for the Yan family to fail in the rebellion. The premise that misfortune does not harm the family is that wealth does not harm the family! Just like Adou does, if the rebellion succeeds, the whole family will ascend to heaven, but if the rebellion fails, at most one of his own will die, and the rate of return is frighteningly high, then wouldn't all the aristocratic families in the world cultivate rebellion experts one after another?
The author does not look like a modern person at all! There is no modern thought at all. First, the protagonist actually asked the prince to receive the so-called royal education, and never thought of establishing a school? He didn't even think of putting all the descendants of officials, nobles and military officers in schools. Facts have proved that ancient education was all about fighting against the five scum, and only systematic school education was the foundation that truly changed ancient society. The protagonist has never thought about it, and the military academy, scale, standardization, and assembly line production of the bottom officer corps are the real ways to strengthen the army, and the protagonist has never thought about it. Second, the protagonist does not have the scientific thinking of modern people at all. If nothing else, the steam engine cannot be built, and the water conservancy machinery cannot be developed? In ancient times, water conservancy had already begun to be used. Why didn't the protagonist develop it vigorously? Encourage improvement? The ancient water hammer already existed, didn't the author want to improve it and forge steel? Ten thousand times stronger than human power. Third, there are no technical rewards for craftsmen and no rewards for medical development. Doesn't the army need doctors? The protagonist doesn't even know this? The protagonist does not do such an important thing as treating injuries and illnesses in the army. Good medical treatment can save the lives of most of the sick and wounded. How much is the value of each surviving veteran? Fourth, should mathematics develop? The protagonist is busy doing this and doing that every day. Has he never thought about implanting scientific development ideas into Chinese society? Don't say you don't have talents. If you don't have talents, why don't you quickly build a school and train the next generation according to your own goals? Only schools can cultivate talents with scientific thinking, and the protagonist doesn't even do that. Is it any use seeing you busy here and there like an ancient person every day? As far as the protagonist, who is illiterate and has not received modern scientific education, what is the use of unifying China? Just another ancient dynasty. Instead of telling you to make artillery and muskets immediately, can you develop some mathematics and science? Can schools establish unified teaching materials to cultivate the next generation of talents with scientific thinking?
The latest situation of the Three Kingdoms 2.0 (Division of states and counties after the defeat of Wu)
I guess it's coming to an end soon. I really can't stand it anymore. I can't finish it honestly. In the end, something has to happen and the four sons come to the throne. Haha. In all dynasties, the emperor will pass on to a prince of foreign origin. It's similar to the United States. It was originally used to fool others, but it ended up fooling himself first. If history goes by the author, Xiao Liu will be a sinner through the ages, and will be more infamous than Sima Yi for thousands of years.
Liu Bei, Liu Chan, and Zhuge Liang granted pardons 13 times and Zhuge Liang zero. Is it really because he only knew how to impose severe punishments? During the Han Dynasty, the rulers particularly liked amnesty. First, in view of the common people's disgust with the tyranny of the Qin Dynasty, the rulers believed that the Han Dynasty's policies should be looser and more extrajudicial to make the people like it; second, because of the popularity of heaven and man's induction, amnesty came down to please God. When will the world be amnesty? There are several situations. The first situation is that there is a happy event for the royal family. For example, the emperor ascends the throne, changes his reign title, appoints a queen, a prince, etc. The second situation is when the country has something big going on. For example, enshrining Zen, establishing the capital, moving the palace, or achieving great military victory, etc. The third situation is when auspiciousness or disaster occurs. In the Han Dynasty, there was a popular belief in the connection between gods and humans. The appearance of auspicious signs meant that God thought the emperor had done a good job and was very happy. So the emperor couldn't make the people happy too? Therefore, an amnesty is required; the occurrence of disasters means that God thinks that the emperor has not done well and is unhappy, so the emperor has to find a way to make God happy, so he also provides an amnesty. During the Han Dynasty, a total of more than 140 amnesties were granted, with an average of one amnesty every two years. Interestingly, the more mediocre the emperor was, the more he loved amnesty. For example, Emperor Ling of the Han Dynasty granted amnesty 20 times in his 22 years of rule. He ranked first among the emperors of the Han Dynasty in terms of number and frequency. During the reign of Emperor Han Yuan, minister Kuang Heng publicly opposed the amnesty. He said: "The amnesty has been given year after year, so that the people can change their lives, and the world is very lucky. I have secretly seen that after the amnesty, the evildoers will not stop. Today is amnesty, and tomorrow they will break the law and go to jail. This may lead to failure." Can the effect be achieved? No. Because ordinary people will think in their hearts, if I am caught, I can get amnesty anyway, so why should I change my ways? Just continue to commit crimes and that's it! Therefore, not only does amnesty fail to curb crime, but it can instigate pardoned criminals to commit crimes again. Amnesty seems to be a positive measure, but there are many opponents in both the Western and Eastern Han Dynasties. During the Eastern Han Dynasty, there were more voices criticizing the amnesty. In the early years of the Eastern Han Dynasty, minister Wu Han was critically ill, and Emperor Guangwu Liu Xiu visited his home. On his deathbed, Wu Han raised the issue of amnesty. Wu Han said: "I am ignorant and ignorant, but I only hope that your majesty will be careful not to pardon you." It means that the humble minister has no knowledge, but he just hopes to try not to amnesty the world casually. In addition to Wu Han, there were many people in the Eastern Han Dynasty who were too cautious about the amnesty, or directly opposed it. The more famous ones are Wang Fu, Xun Yue, Cui Shi, Zheng Xuan, Chen Ji, etc. Because in the Han Dynasty, especially the Eastern Han Dynasty, the disadvantages of amnesty became more and more obvious. We all know that the Han Dynasty was an era of the rise of powerful families in Chinese history. Especially in the Eastern Han Dynasty, the powerful families had grown into the most powerful political force. Among them, the outstanding aristocratic families could influence central politics, and ordinary powerful landlords could also influence local politics. With their strong political, economic and even cultural power, they annexed land, oppressed civilians, did everything, and committed all kinds of evil. Most of the local crimes were committed by them. How many of the truly honest small farmers and small businessmen dare to commit crimes? Moreover, these wealthy families usually occupy positions in states and counties, which makes it difficult for their crimes to be sanctioned locally. Under such circumstances, if the central government continues to issue amnesties frequently, they will become more unscrupulous and lawless. At that time, some people even took advantage of the central government's amnesty so that they would not be punished after committing crimes. At that time, there was a sorcerer named Zhang Cheng in Hanoi County. He deduced that the imperial court was going to grant amnesty to the whole world, so he asked his son to kill one of his enemies. Sure enough, not long after Zhang Cheng's son committed the murder, the court issued a general amnesty, and he no longer had to pay with his life. But Zhang Cheng had calculated everything, but he never expected that he would meet a ruthless person - Henan Yin Liying. After learning about this incident, he executed Zhang Cheng's son under the pressure of resisting the decree. So in the political environment at that time, the beneficiaries of the amnesty were basically powerful landlords and their dependents, and the real ordinary people would not get any benefits from the amnesty. Wang Fu, an outstanding political commentator of the Eastern Han Dynasty, wrote a special article called "Shu Amnesty" for this purpose. He said: "Today, there is nothing more serious than amnesty and redemption for good people. If you forgive and redeem a few times, the evil people will prosper and the good people will be hurt. Those who raise food will harm the crops, and those who benefit the traitors will rob the good people." This means that now amnesty can only hurt the good people and benefit the bad people. It is the most harmful policy to people. Among the actual rulers of the three generations of Shu Han, Zhuge Liang disliked amnesty the most. During Liu Bei's period, there were two amnesties; during Liu Chan's period (after Zhuge Liang's death), there were 11 amnesties. How many times did Zhuge Liang grant amnesty when he governed the Shu Han Dynasty? Not once, never, has an amnesty been granted to the world. So when Chen Shou later evaluated Zhuge Liang, he also used the words "don't act rashly". Zhuge Liang is a very wise man, and it is impossible for him not to see the negative impact of the amnesty on society. In "Huayang Guozhi", Zhuge Liang's own views on the amnesty were recorded. At that time, someone said to Zhuge Liang, "The public cherishes the pardon", which means Prime Minister, why are you so unwilling to grant amnesty to the world? Zhuge Liang replied: "Government is based on great virtue, not small favors, so Kuang Heng and Wu Han were unwilling to grant amnesty. The late emperor (referring to Liu Bei) also said: 'I have been around Chen Yuanfang and Zheng Kangcheng, and every time I see instructions on how to deal with chaos, I have prepared them, and I have never said a word of pardon.' If Jing Sheng, Ji Yu and their son, pardoned every year, what is the use of governance!" Brief translation. Zhuge Liang believed that amnesty was a "small favor" rather than a "great virtue". The late emperor also said that he and the great scholars Chen Ji and Zheng Xuan often communicated together and discussed ways to govern the country. They talked a lot, but no one said that amnesty was needed to govern the country. Like Liu Biao and Liu Zhang, they administered amnesty every year when governing their territories, but what was the use? " Zhuge Liang had such an attitude towards amnesty, and he also practiced it when he actually governed the Shu region. Before Liu Bei captured Yizhou, Liu Yan and Liu Zhang and their sons, in order to consolidate the foundation of their rule, had long-term preferential treatment and leniency. The local wealthy families are very arrogant. If there are frequent amnesties under such circumstances, then as we said above, the wealthy families will become more and more lawless and the people will be more oppressed. The political situation in Yizhou It will become more serious. In this case, Zhuge Liang insisted on strict governance of Shu and refused to frequently announce amnesties. It was a wise move to assess the situation politically. Unfortunately, after Zhuge Liang's death, his successor. Those who failed to understand the prime minister's thoughts frequently issued amnesties. In the ninth year of Yanxi (AD 246), the Shu Han Dynasty announced an amnesty. Meng Guang, a famous scholar, criticized the ruling Fei Yi in public, saying: "The pardon is a dry thing and is not suitable for the Ming Dynasty." The disadvantages are so severe that they must be dealt with as a last resort, and then they can be exercised with authority. Today, the Lord is benevolent and virtuous, and all the officials are competent. Why is it that he is in danger and urgent, and yet he shows extraordinary kindness to benefit the evildoer? " Meng Guang believed that amnesty only benefits the evildoers and should be used as a last resort. That situation has not yet reached that situation. Why should we give amnesty to the whole world? Unfortunately, Meng Guang's criticism had no effect. After Fei Yi, until the fall of the Shu Han, a total of 11 amnesties were granted. The social governance of the late Shu Han was very chaotic, which must have a lot to do with the frequent amnesties.
If you want to change the fate of the Shu Han, there is nothing more than the Battle of Xiangfan and the Battle of Yiling; after that, you have to cheat. If you have a system to obtain materials that transcend the times, what about defending Jieting in the first Northern Expedition? The national power of the Shu Han Dynasty at that time was still difficult to resist Wei's counterattack. Jieting was just Wei's first tentative counterattack. If Jieting could not be defended, how could others surrender? It can be seen here that Jiang Wei's political level is also average. The destiny of the Northern Expedition is in Hanzhong. In the Battle of Hanzhong, Cao Cao did not lose completely. He moved most of the people in Hanzhong. I am afraid that only one or two of the 100,000 households will survive. How many years will it take to recover? In fact, there are not many solutions. Moving the people of Jingzhou to consolidate Hanzhong, making good connections with Soochow, waiting for the opportunity to leave Longyou, occupying Liangzhou, and eyeing Guanzhong may be one of the few strategies. Or maybe even further before Hanzhong won, he turned to strategic defense to solidify the foundation and try to keep Dongsanjun and Nanjun intact. However, Liu Bei did not have this ability. This is where he was not as good as Gaozu. He was politically immature. This can be seen from the personnel arrangements of Jingzhou, Dongsanjun, Wei Yan and others. To put it nicely, it means knowing people wisely, but to put it poorly, it means employing people with nepotism. The outline is often confusing. Expedient measures may be possible, but they cannot become the norm. The roots of trouble and hidden dangers are laid here. The loss of Jingzhou was certainly not careless. There must be root causes in it. Just look at Mi Fang and you will know that Guan Yu went deep alone and betrayed his relatives. Why was Soochow so brave in its self-defense, but failed in its active attack? It also has roots! Looking at the protagonist's behavior, the author does not have much political quality. There are many things that the protagonist can't say, even though the protagonist is Liu Bei's almost only heir. How can I put it, the author has read a lot of historical materials, but only dead books, which are not very helpful to the novel and cannot solve the problem. After the Second World War, the first problem is population, then materials, and thirdly logistics, none of which can be done by manpower. Just imagine: Hanzhong was in its prime, the Battle of Xiangfan broke out. Hanzhong's partial force of 20,000 left Qishan and entered Longyou, and the main force of 30,000 left Dongzhou, attacked Xiangfan, joined forces with Guan Yu, and fought a decisive battle with Cao Wei. Soochow will wait and see, Wei Sheng will take advantage of the situation to seize Jingzhou and separatize the Yangtze River; Shu Sheng will easily capture Hefei and drive directly to the Jianghuai River and enter the Central Plains of Tutu. This is to use force to force others. No matter how much Jiangdong covets Jingzhou, he will sit on the mountain and watch the fight between tigers and tigers. However, Shu Han did not have this strength, so he chose Hanzhong in name only. He seemed powerful, but he was fat in the eyes of others and surrounded by wolves. It was under the background that the new land was not attached and the old land was separated, the Shu Han Dynasty declined. The same is true for Cao Cao. Every time he was defeated, it was almost like this. There was a fire in the backyard. This was the special nature of the Three Kingdoms era. The class struggle was particularly fierce. In the early days of Wei and Shu, the grassroots stood up and the clans fought back and finally compromised until they came to power. With his unique personality charm and talents, Zhuge Liang inherited part of the ideals of Liu Bei and Cao Cao, making the politics of Shu clear and clear, and the people living in peace, but he could not compete with the general trend of the world! It's useless to say so much. In a word, it's cheating, conjuring up population, food, grass, and talents, and taking advantage of the war to trim the family. Create a new system from it and let the new beneficiaries support it, such as setting up official schools, selecting children with outstanding military achievements, farming, craftsmen, etc. To enroll, issuing official diplomas, selecting the best to be officials, and the weak to be officials. At first, the power of academic evaluation can be transferred to the clan, and it will be taken back to the government in the future, and finally the imperial examination will be promoted. At the same time, it is necessary to suppress the long-term farm economy and develop new economies, such as government-run handicrafts, mineral smelting, small farmer economy, etc. Grasp the scale, and there may be hope of transcending the times. (Well, I realize that I have said a lot of nonsense, so I might as well post it. I hope it will be of some help to the author. After all, it is worthy of recognition for being able to search for the truth among old papers.)
Doesn't the author know that putting Liu Hu in the position will cause the whole Ji Han to be divided? Liu Hu had to rely on the Kwantung gentry if he wanted to ascend to power. Cao Wei had introduced a nine-level Zhongzheng system. So what conditions would he have to offer to win over and move the capital to Luoyang? Recognize the vested interests and titles of the remnants of Cao Wei? Whitewashing Cao Cao? What's the difference between that and the Eastern Han Dynasty? Just don't revive it at all. The author actually gave Xia Houhui private goods to add to the plot because she was a historical celebrity and wrote about emotions, right? And in the first two chapters, he even talked about the massacre of Luoyang City, subverting the entire personalities of Liu Bei Group and Ji Han. The author is also too partial to one female character😅. Don't you know what happened to Xia Houhui, the deposed prince of the Han Dynasty? Writing like this just makes her look like a snake-hearted person. A girl from a wealthy family is jealous of a woman from a poor family and wants to bring down her only son and harm the whole family😅
Situation of the Battle of Guanzhong
Dahan: Complete Yongzhou + Liangzhou + Yizhou + Changshifu of the Western Regions + Three Eastern Counties (Ankang, Shangyong, Xincheng). Yongan is not Baidi City, but Zigui, which was captured by Wu after the Battle of Yiling in history. Wuguan and Tongguan are in the hands of Cao Wei
Support the author's idea of not killing everyone + maintaining stability
Supporting the author's idea of not killing everyone + maintaining stability, there is no need to even provoke the Huainan rebellion. This is not about benevolence or Confucianism, but a very simple profit factor. First, it is most foolish to liquidate at the beginning of victory. There is nothing to say about intensifying conflicts and provoking war. The key is that the efficiency of liquidation slowly after the war is not low. Some people think that when the liquidation is justified and justified, they can go on a killing spree. I can only say that you are too young. After stabilization, you can liquidate for various reasons, such as disrespecting the law, missing the old country, and finding banned weapons at home. But now, no matter what the reason is, liquidation will only make everyone feel in danger. The most important thing is, does the political struggle liquidation of feudal rulers really need a reason? When Zhu Yuanzhang founded the country, didn't he still follow the legal traditions of the Yuan Dynasty and treat surrendered ministers well? After unification, let alone surrendered ministers, wouldn't he kill the heroes cleanly? Second, we are worried that the gentry will become a powerful family for future generations. This is also funny. What will happen if the Western Jin Dynasty is unified? What will happen if the protagonists are unified? The clans of the Jin Dynasty were inherited from the Cao Wei Dynasty. Later, when Sima Yi was in the wrong position, he could only frantically sell his interests to unite the nobles. The Jin Dynasty was so congenitally deformed that Sima Yan could only destroy it. Now the north is being unified, and the original political system that was beneficial to the gentry has collapsed. The domestic Jingshu gentry itself is not strong, and the meritorious military aristocrats formed by the long-term unification war are mainly from poor families or small gentry (Wang Ping, Wei Yan, Jiang Wei, Deng Ai). This creates a check and balance: the surrender of the northern gentry with a broad base - the Jingshu gentry interest group - the Han military meritorious group. At least under the protagonist's rule, it is difficult to form an opposition group to oppose subsequent reforms. Third, the difficulty of reform after reunification will not be reduced by the current massacre. We know that reforms like Guangwu Emperor Liu Xiu encountered widespread resistance after unification, so some people think that they did not kill enough during unification. The key is where does the resistance come from? The area with the greatest resistance turned out to be Nanyang, the Imperial Township. If the protagonist is the Jingshu Group, you are now satisfied with killing the northern nobles. Their decline in power, their inability to be independent and not accepted by the protagonist, will only force them to merge with the Jingshu Group and strengthen the originally unprominent Jingshu nobles in order to protect themselves. What is the biggest resistance to reform? Vested interest groups in the original structure. What is the driving force behind reform? The oppressed in the original pattern. Who do you think has the vested interests in the structure formed after the unification of Shu and Han? Who are the oppressed? The fourth and most important point is. Disintegrating the economic foundation of the gentry is far more important than the gentry itself, and one cannot kill them all. After killing one batch, another batch will be added. Rather than going on a killing spree to vent their anger, what is more important is to seize their farms, control their slaves, and control their means of production. Politically, they give preferential treatment to those who surrender, and economically, they fully embezzle and destroy their foundation. Especially when the current protagonist maintains a military advantage, political concessions can resolve the resistance to the economic offensive.