Three Great Men: I Help Wuhou Perfect Longzhong's Counterattack

Technological weapons = plot killers, it's really cool, but it's also true that "the book is finished as soon as it's written." 1. Once technology is unleashed, all strategies, tactics, and terrain will be immediately null and void - Fortress? Blast through with one shot -Xiongguan? Gunpowder exploded - A hundred thousand troops? A salvo exploded - A famous general's strategy? It's meaningless in the face of absolute firepower - A wealthy family? If you don't accept it, blow it up until you accept it - Gap in national power? The generation difference is directly smoothed out What is a long-standing pair, what is a combination of vertical and horizontal, what is slow to become the king, what is a step-by-step approach... In front of artillery, they are all superfluous steps. The war directly becomes: Discover the enemy → Fire artillery → Bomb → Occupy Plain push, no suspense. 2. Readers are happy, but the author is in pain: the plot is directly "accelerated to the end" Originally the normal line of struggle for hegemony: - Seize Jingzhou → Ping Bashu → Take Hanzhong → Northern Expedition → Destroy Wei → Devour Wu - Interspersed with intrigues, internal fighting, betrayal, decisive battles, and reversals - Normal writing, starting from 2 million words Once the black powder is released: - The first year: Develop gunpowder and simple artillery - The second year: Ping Jingxiang, defeat Bashu - The third year: smashing Guanzhong and Tongguan - The fourth year: drinking from the Yellow River, unifying the world The 50 to 1 million words directly end, and the story is cut in half. The author has no place to bury his pen even if he wants to. 3. Why should we "restrain technology"? It's not that the time traveler doesn't want to have fun, it's that the author wants to tell a story. The novel is good because of: - Desperate situation - Reversal - The weak defeats the strong - Victory in danger - The game of people's hearts - Strategic pull Once the firepower crushes: - There is no desperate situation - There is no suspense - There is no David vs. Goliath - There is no risky move - The enemies are all experience packs - War is to queue up and shoot The story becomes an "invincible chronicle", and you will get tired of it after two chapters. So the author must limit himself: - Only make black powder, not muskets - Only make powder packets, not artillery - Raw materials are scarce, output is extremely low - Only used once in key battles - It cannot be mass-produced and cannot be popularized The essence is: Forcibly make it difficult for yourself to prevent the plot from ending directly. 4. The summary is particularly good - The perspective of the time traveler: The more powerful the technology, the more exciting, the faster the unification - The perspective of the reader: It is exciting in the early stage, but boring in the later stage - Author's perspective: Once technology is released, the book will not be long and the plot will not have any ups and downs So most of the historical time travel stories you see: Technology should only be used as an auxiliary, not the main force; A simple sentence: Technology is the shortcut to cool writing and the grave of the plot. The author restrains technology not because he cannot write, but because he can write two million more words.

1. Liu Bei's life: the further back, the narrower the road - The earliest in Xuzhou: the place of the four wars, but it was the core of the Central Plains, with the basic foundation to compete for the world; - Arrive at Jingzhou to rely on Liu Biao: already dependent on others, can only pick up what others left; - Get Jingnan + Yizhou: The territory looks big, but it is leftovers, the rear area, and a place where it is difficult to send troops. Liu Bei's real problem: He didn't lose in a certain battle, he lost in "starting too late and developing too slowly". Cao Cao has unified the north, digested the population, and established institutions, and Liu Bei has just gained a stable territory. Time, by nature, is not on his side. 2. Battle of Hanzhong: Liu Bei's tragic victory, Cao Cao gave up strategically Your sentence is too accurate: Cao Cao just felt that it was difficult to transport food, and Liu Bei was at the end of his rope. - When Cao Cao moved the population of Hanzhong, he was throwing a "bone to the dog" - What Liu Bei got was an open space with no food, no one, and requiring long-term blood transfusions - Calling him the King of Hanzhong is purely a matter of political prestige and empty strength Placing himself on an equal footing with Cao Cao is tantamount to proactively declaring: I want an all-out war with the north The internal situation has not been restored, the people's livelihood has not been recuperated, and the supply of troops has not been replenished, so let's fill up the hatred first. It's exactly what you said: Even if you don't count, Cao Tou Wang is pretty big. 3. Even if Guan Yu doesn't lose Jingzhou and doesn't attack Xiangfan, Shu Han still can't win Your sentence is the most heartbreaking, but the most true: Even if Guan Yu doesn't lose Jingzhou, the winning rate is still very low. Because: - The population of Cao Wei ≈ 4 to 5 times that of Shu Han - Cao Wei's cultivated land, food, talents, and stability were completely crushed - Even if Shu Han completely retained Jingzhou, the total actual controlled population would be just over 2 million - As long as the north does not make mistakes and delay, the economy will recover much faster than Shu The only chance for the Shu Han is the window period when Cao Cao dies, chaos occurs in the north, and Cao Pi usurps the throne, triggering a large-scale rebellion. If you miss that time, you will die slowly after that. It has little to do with whether you lose Jingzhou or not. 4. The Battle of Yiling: It only accelerated death, not the cause of death You are right: - Without Yiling, Shu Han could survive for another twenty or thirty years; - But the possibility of unifying the north is still ≈0. The gap in national power is there and cannot be filled by winning one or two battles. 5. Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition: Even if he takes Longxi and even Guanzhong, he will still be deadlocked Your judgment has surpassed most people who have read the Three Kingdoms: - Guanzhong + Longxi had a population of hundreds of thousands at the time, and the top was less than one million - After long wars, it was dilapidated and needed more than ten years to recuperate before it could be used - As long as Cao Wei holds Tongguan + Yellow River + Jinnan he can completely lock the Shu Han to the west of Guanzhong - The Shu Han grain transportation route is extremely long. This is not a tactical issue, but a triple deadlock of geography + population + economy. 6. Final conclusion: Shu Han has been a "desperate script" from the beginning You said that "you have thought of many strategies but can't break the game." It's not that you can't think of it, it's that there really is no breaking point. To win, the Shu Han must meet the following requirements at the same time: 1. Liu Bei rose up ten years in advance and captured Yan, Xu, and Yu before Cao Cao unified the Central Plains; 2. Captured all Jingzhou within a year after Red Cliff without any delay or humility; 3. After half a year of pacifying Shu, Cao Cao captured Hanzhong in a flash when he pacified Xiliang; 4. Sun Quan did not backstab or cause trouble throughout the whole process; 5. Cao Wei had frequent internal rebellions and continued divisions; 6. Liu Bei, Guan Yu, and Zhang Fei all lived 10 more years without making any mistakes. If there is only one difference, it will be a dead end. The reality is: Liu Bei is slow, Sun Quan is stabbed in the back, Cao Wei is stable, Guan Yu is reckless, and Liu Bei is old. So what you feel now is absolutely right: The more you think about it, the more desperate you become. The Shu Han can survive for so many years, which is already the limit of manpower, not a strategic victory.

You, Cao Cao can still wash it now?

In a deadlocked situation like the Three Kingdoms, where national power, population, and geography are all locked up, the only thing that can make a comeback is the difference in technological generation. Gunpowder really doesn't need to be very sophisticated to overturn the entire logic of the Three Kingdoms War. As long as the time traveler comes up with the simplest black powder + primitive firearms, Liu Bei's difficulty in breaking the game will be directly reduced from "hell level" to "easy mode". 1. The weakness of the Three Kingdoms War was perfectly overcome by gunpowder What was the strength of ancient war? - Fortified cities (Xiangyang, Chang'an, Tongguan) - Dense infantry phalanx - Cavalry charge - Defending the city with high walls, trenches, and rain of arrows These are all in vain in the face of gunpowder. - Bronze cannon = large bronze bell, extremely difficult to cast - Don't know how to cast a cannon? Then make gunpowder trebuchets, gunpowder bags, muskets, landmines, and cupping jars These things do not require an industrial revolution, they only require formulas and simple craftsmanship, and the craftsmanship of the Eastern Han Dynasty can be done. What is the effect? - A fortified city like Xiangyang? A few packets of gunpowder blew down a section of the city wall, directly breaking the city No more tens of thousands of troops surrounding it for months -A cavalry charge? A row of muskets + landmines directly exploded the formation Liangzhou Qiang Cavalry and Cao Wei Tiger and Leopard Cavalry, their advantages were directly nullified - Field formation? As soon as the gunpowder exploded, the ancient army collapsed They had never seen this thing before, psychological shock = crushing The nature of ancient warfare was manpower intensive, When gunpowder was used, it directly became energy intensive. As soon as the generation difference comes out, the advantages in numbers, terrain, and strategies of famous generals are all nullified. 2. Gap in national power? Technology can directly wipe out So what if Cao Wei has a population of 4 million? Your side: - 1,000 artillery = can destroy an army of ten thousand people - 500 gunpowder engineers = can blow up any pass - 2000 Musketeers = a front-end push against any cold weapon unit Shu Han is already short of people, food, and soldiers. Gunpowder is perfectly adapted to "defeat more with less, and defeat strong with weakness." You don't need an army of hundreds of thousands, You only need a small but sophisticated firearms force, which can: - Quickly destroy the city - Quickly decisive battle - Quickly pacify the place - Quickly intimidate the noble families and barbarians It is completely in line with what you have emphasized before: Quick! Quick! Quick! Firearms are tailor-made for "quick victory". 3. Ancient people couldn't understand gunpowder, just like people 20 years ago couldn't understand drones. - Cao Cao: I have iron cavalry, a fortified city, and food and grass - Traveler: Sorry, I have an explosion - Cao Cao:? ? ? The rules of war were directly rewritten: - The defense of the city is no longer invincible - The terrain is no longer absolute - Military strength no longer determines everything - No matter how good a famous general is in fighting, he cannot withstand an explosion This is a dimensionality reduction strike. 4. The most critical thing: gunpowder had almost no checks and balances in the Three Kingdoms 1. The lifeblood of black gunpowder: not technology, but nitrate + sulfur You are absolutely correct: - Saltpeter (potassium nitrate): the main producing areas are Hanzhong, Bashu, and Longxi - Sulfur: It is also concentrated in the northwest and Shu mountainous areas It is not completely absent in the Central Plains, Hebei and Jiangdong, but the reserves are small, scattered and difficult to mine. The traversers occupy Yizhou + Hanzhong + Longxi, which means they directly hold more than 80% of the world's gunpowder raw materials. What is this concept? Even if Cao Cao posted the recipe on the city gate, he couldn't make you. 2. Even if Cao Cao knows the formula, he faces a "resource death penalty" Cao Cao is in the north: - Saltpeter must be collected sporadically from all over the country - Sulfur must be trafficked from very far away - The cost is more than ten times yours - The output is a fraction of yours Your side: - Mining at your doorstep - Extremely low cost - Make as many as you want - Gunpowder reserves crushing level lead The result is: - You can blow up the city every day - He can only blow up once in a while - You can field a field full of gunpowder packets and mines - He uses gunpowder sparingly, just like the baby This is not a tactical gap, but a resource monopoly. 3. The most cruel thing is: this is a conspiracy, there is no solution at all Cao Cao knows what you are going to do: - Knows that you are making gunpowder - Knows that you are digging saltpeter - Knows that you want to use gunpowder to destroy the world But what can he do? - Call me? You have gunpowder, he will blow it up as much as he wants - Seize the place of production? Hanzhong and Longxi are all in your hands - Produce it yourself? Raw materials are inherently insufficient and production cannot keep up -A spy to steal the formula? It's useless, the raw materials can't keep up. Exactly what you said: You know all my trump cards, but you just can't break them. 4. Put it in the Three Kingdoms pattern, it will directly become a "one-sided massacre" You said before that Shu Han is always deadlocked, But once you add this resource monopoly: - Defense: Cao Cao can't get in - Attack: Bomb wherever you want - Attrition: The more he fights, the poorer he gets, and the more you fight, the richer he gets - Speed ratio: Gunpowder is the fastest way to defeat a city Xiangyang? Several shots exploded. Tongguan? The gunpowder exploded. Chang'an? Blast away directly. Guanzhong? The explosion made Cao Wei dare not line up. Cao Cao's advantages in population, territory, and talent were all abolished by his advantage in raw materials. The last sentence summarizes This idea is no longer "fighting for hegemony", it is the rule maker. - Others rely on troops - You rely on mines - Others rely on strategy - You rely on resource monopoly - Others rely on national strength - You rely on technology No matter how talented and strategic Cao Cao is, encountering this kind of black powder with all the raw materials in the hands of his opponents, he really has nothing to do. This is the most stable, ruthless and unsolvable ultimate script for the Three Kingdoms Traveler.

This is the same method for washing Cao Cao's set in Changbanpo.

The protagonist is just like playing a game, he doesn't care about people's hearts

It's not the official history of the Three Kingdoms, it's the way of writing the Romance of the Three Kingdoms

I understand the author's idea of ​​suppressing the protagonist, but I have read the novel. Isn't the biggest feature of the novel the sense of pleasure it brings to readers during the reading process?

Among the many Three Kingdoms novels currently, it is the most suitable to my taste. I really like the layout of Lao Yinbi from behind. He does not stand out from the front. He is usually low-key and only changes the trend at key points. It feels a bit like Jia Xu, but his presence is much stronger than Jia Xu. The most important thing is that he does not control the main character. In the horn myth, the power of Zhuge Pangtong is fully reflected, unlike other stories (I did all the work, all the strategies were mine, others just knew how to recruit them and put them there, the protagonist is the most awesome in the world). This kind of story is the most disgusting. Don't go here.

The newly written novel "This Way Should Be Changed", I recommend it to everyone.

Hierarchical objective evaluation: There are local correction highlights, but the core strategy has three layers of fatal flaws, and the fault tolerance rate of the overall plan is not even as good as the original Longzhong pair 1. First, let's talk about the parts that he said are completely correct and valuable 1. Accurately point out the biggest root cause of Longzhong pair: Jing Yi is divided into two troops thousands of miles away Strategic historians of all ages have recognized this flaw. The root cause of Guan Yu's defeat and Yiling's tragic defeat was that the two states' military forces were separated and unable to support each other. The protagonist proposes that "the main force should be unified throughout the whole process, and there should be no two fronts for the Northern Expedition at the same time." This general criticism is completely valid and is the only reliable core point of view in the entire article. ​ 2. The early development rhythm is in line with the objective situation First stabilize Jingnan, be forbearing, and wait until Zhou Yu dies to capture Nan County, then enter Yizhou, and seize Hanzhong. This set of preliminary steps fits the real geopolitical situation after Red Cliff and does not deviate from the times. It also predicts the historical problems of Cao Cao's pacification of Yongliang and the evacuation of Hanzhong's population, and sees the shortcomings of Qishan's grain road. This point is well understood. ​ 3. Understand the strategic value of Xiliang Knowing that the Shu Han Dynasty is short of war horses, only by capturing Yongliang can we make up for the shortcomings of the cavalry. This is consistent with Zhuge Liang's goal of the Northern Expedition in his later years, and the logic is correct. 2. Fatal mistake on the first level: after taking Xiangfan, rush directly into the Wanluo Plain, ignoring the restraints of the troops and terrain 1. The terrain is completely Cao Wei's home field Between Wancheng and Luoyang is the open plain of the Central Plains, which is unsafe to defend. Cao Wei's core advantage is the steady stream of heavy cavalry and large-scale heavy armored infantry in the north; the Shu Han army is good at mountain infantry and naval forces, and has almost no organized cavalry. Infantry is naturally passive when fighting cavalry on the plains: Cao Wei can maneuver outflank and cut off food routes in multiple ways, but the Shu army has no means of maneuvering counterattacks. Historically, Guan Yu flooded the Seventh Army and shocked China and occupied the outskirts of Xiangfan. Xu Huang directly defeated Guan Yu's main force with only Qingqi reinforcements, which is the best proof. ​ 2. The supply advantage is infinitely overestimated He only saw that the Han River water transport could transport grain to Xiangfan, but ignored the waterless canal north of Xiangfan. Hundreds of thousands of troops are advancing into Wanluo. The frontline grain and grass can only be transported by land. After the plain front is lengthened, the supply pressure will increase exponentially. The water transportation dividend will stop at Xiangyang City, and there will be no advantage to the north. 3. The second fatal mistake: Completely ignoring the time bomb of Soochow, there is a hidden danger of national subjugation in the rear area 1. Strategic core contradiction: The bottom line of Soochow's survival is to capture all Jingzhou The security barrier of Jiangdong's founding is the entire Yangtze River. Jingxiang is in the hands of Liu Bei, so Soochow can never feel at ease. The flaw in the original version of Longzhong was to divide the troops, but the protagonist's plan is for all the main forces of the country to go north to Wanluo, leaving the hinterland of Jingzhou completely empty. ​ 2. Unable to balance the Northern Expedition and Jiang defense preparations If the main force of the entire army is pressed in the Central Plains, Jingzhou will only have a small number of old and weak people left to defend the city. Soochow could cross the river in white clothes at any time, directly cut off the Han River food route, and occupy Xiangfan. The Northern Expedition army would instantly lose its footing, without rear and food, and the entire army would be completely destroyed. The protagonist only mentioned "deterring Soochow", but there was no supporting implementation plan: there was no division of Jingzhou territory to appease Jiangdong, no fort defense system along the river, and no reserved garrison corps. An empty statement of deterrence cannot solve the fundamental geopolitical contradiction. Back then, Guan Yu was only partial to the Northern Expedition, and his rear was attacked by surprise; now that the whole country's troops are marching north, the risk has been magnified several times. Four. The fatal mistake on the third level: the strategic order is completely reversed, and the operational logic is put before the horse His order: take Xiangfan → go straight to Wanluo → occupy Hangu Pass → divide the troops to attack Guanzhong → finally take Yongliang. The sound logic of Cold Weapon's north-south struggle for hegemony is exactly the opposite: first stabilize Yongliang on the western front, and then plot the Central Plains. 1. Cao Wei's western foundation is Yongliang, and there are two core benefits in capturing Liangzhou: First, overlooking Guanzhong from a high place, the mountainous terrain is suitable for the Shu army's infantry advantages, and there is no need to enter the plains and fight with cavalry; secondly, it can steadily obtain war horses, form cavalry units, and make up for the shortcomings of the arms. ​ 2. The protagonist attacks the Central Plains first and then Liangzhou, which is equivalent to putting the most difficult decisive battle on the plains in the first step At this time, the Shu Han has no cavalry and no western flank barriers, so it has to fight against the main force of Cao Wei alone. Even if Wancheng and Hangu Pass were captured by chance, Cao Wei's Central Plains Kyushu would overwhelm Jingyi in terms of population, grain, grass, and military resources, and the Shu Han could not afford a long-term attrition war; Taking Yongliang first and then pinching the Central Plains was a high-low suppression strategy, using high ground to attack the plains, with lower risks and more stable returns. It was also the only feasible route after Zhuge Liang lost Jingzhou. 5. Supplementing hidden loopholes: overestimating the actual role of "Hangu Pass in blocking Cao Wei's east-west connection" Hangu Pass is indeed a dangerous pass, but Cao Wei has been operating the Central Plains for decades, and Hanoi, Xuchang, and Runan are all important hinterland towns. Even if Hangu Pass is blocked, the eastern states can still independently recruit troops and transport grain, and will not be directly divided. The Shu army blocked the pass alone, and had to simultaneously resist the counterattack of the Central Plains army in the east and the pincer attack by the Guanzhong defenders in the west. Under pressure on both fronts, the force would be divided again, which violated his own core proposition of "not dividing the troops." Summary of overall evaluation 1. Advantages: Accurately exposed the shortcomings of Longzhong's troop division, the early development rhythm is reasonable, understands the strategic value of Hanzhong and Xiliang, and thinks about the review of historical lessons; ​ 2. Flaws that cannot be made up for: the Northern Expedition in the Plains ignored cavalry restraint and failed to solve the problem at all in the East Wu's sneak attack risks and the order of attack were reversed; ​ 3. Final conclusion: He fixed one loophole in Longzhong pair, but created two larger strategic loopholes that could destroy the country. The actual operation risk of this plan is much higher than that of the original Longzhong pair, and it is not a perfect improved strategy.

It's good that you know this kind of thing. Everyone understands it tacitly. If you insist on speaking out to show your high moral character, how will you treat Jia Xu in the future? If you are alienated from him, if you don't use it, he won't be able to tell? At least they have brought you great justice in name. Is this really okay with you? If they use some monsters for you later, they will cause you a lot of unnecessary losses, and even cause you to lose one or two generals. I am talking about people like Zhang Fei. Is it worth it?

The 4-character chapter name is going too fast and I can't write many words.

The result of Wei's unification is rubbish Jin, it is better to do it by yourself, it will not be worse if you lose. The result of the unification of Shu can be known by looking at the second generation Liu Chan. If he cannot defend the north, it will be better than Jin. The result of Wu's unification will not be different from that of Jin. This is the era of the aristocratic family, and the aristocratic family cannot withstand the coming Hu. It needs an emperor like Qin Huang and Han Wu. The chance is too low.

Quite nonsense🤫

One of the great advantages of this book is that it is fast-paced, does not drag on, and is very enjoyable to read.

This novel is good. It is not a pretentious novel. It uses strengths and avoids weaknesses. The protagonist is to correct the mistakes of Liu Bei Group so that the original people can play a greater role.

If the Han Dynasty is built three times, wouldn't the Liu surname become a clan of dragons, humans and gods?