
The Great Han: Through the Disaster of Witchcraft, Please Ask Han Wu to Abdicate the Throne
大汉:穿越巫蛊之祸,请汉武退位
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I don't understand why these Naotan patients like to travel through time and not have the memories of their original bodies. Can't they solve the mystery of the womb? They have to increase their strength for no reason.
How can a ragtag rebellion succeed? We don't even have regular troops. A few hundred of them can defeat thousands of yours. If you really don't understand, you can use some rabble to rebel.
Three elements of rebellion: control of the emperor, ministers, and army. Judging from the situation of Liu Ju's rebellion, the emperor was not in the palace, but in Ganquan Palace. The first thing the prince had to do was to control the palace, and the second step was to control the four gates of Chang'an City to eliminate internal and external communication. The third is to immediately control the ministers, hold a court meeting, announce the death of the emperor and the prince's formal supervision of the country, and immediately mobilize the northern and southern armies to surround Ganquan Palace by decree. These must be completed on the same day. Seeing that the author has been rebelling all night and has not yet taken control of the four gates of Chang'an City, it is strange that the rebellion is undefeated.
Explanation on issues related to the protagonist's activities in Chang'an at the beginning of the novel
When I was reading the comment area recently, I saw some book friends asking the protagonist about the integration of various forces in Chang'an in the first half, why Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty didn't know about it, and why he didn't immediately execute the beheading of Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty. I used to reply one by one, but later I found that some of the issues discussed by everyone were similar, so I decided to open a separate thread to discuss this issue. If you have thoughts and ideas on related issues in the future, you are welcome to exchange and discuss directly under this thread. (After all, if you open a separate post about this, you will see fewer people and fewer discussions. It is fate that everyone gets together (laughs)) Q1: In the novel, the protagonists organized an uprising in Chang'an, why did Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty not respond. A1: During the real witchcraft disaster, Liu Zheng, as the prince, was supervising the country in Chang'an, and Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty was in Ganquan Palace. Ganquan Palace was three hundred miles away from Chang'an according to the standards of the Han Dynasty. Historically, Liu Zhi used his talismans to cause trouble in Chang'an. Q2: When the protagonist rebels, why can't he just take him by surprise, make a quick decision, and behead Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty A2: Han Wu was in Ganquan Palace at this time. As A1 said, it was three hundred miles away from Chang'an. Han Wu was surrounded by Qi Men and Yu Lin guards, the most elite troops in the world. Every year, the best of the good families from the six counties were sent in. If an army was suddenly raised in Chang'an, there would be no political attempts. Although he failed to get the support of the army and the people of Chang'an, he could only take his own crown prince guards to defeat the emperor. If he could succeed, Liu Zhi should be possessed by a superman and a mechanical god; Q3: In the Western Han Dynasty, what exactly was needed for a qualified coup? A3: Weapons -> Cut off channels for communication of government orders (the coup party has the final say) -> Occupy the political commanding heights (obtain the emperor's seal and documents to control the authority of external explanations) -> Control the army Q4: How difficult was the mutiny caused by witchcraft in real history? A4: 1. Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty was not in Chang'an and had a large number of elite protection around him, so he could not directly control the emperor by air. 2. Emperor Wu reformed the northern and southern armies. The southern army killed 10,000 people and added Qimen and Jianzhangyingqi, which were always with the emperor. At the same time, the Northern Army was divided into eight captains. They were not concentrated in Chang'an, which made it more difficult to increase the prince's strength. 3. It was necessary to gather enough people to overwhelm the armed forces around Emperor Wu, and then control Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty to force him to be trapped in Ganquan Palace before he could react. He could not be allowed to return to Chang'an (Jianzhang Palace). However, the Wei family relatives who could be used by Liu Shi were basically killed by Hanwu. Q5: What did Liu Zhi do in real history? A5: 1. Arrest Jiang Chong and kill him; 2. Send Changle Palace Guards to attack the Prime Minister's Mansion 3. Seize the arsenal 4. Tell all the officials that my father was trapped in Ganquan Palace due to illness and may be controlled by traitors. I suspect that the traitors may take the opportunity to cause trouble, so I want the Qing Dynasty to rescue the emperor 5. Pardon the prisoners and think that the army 6. He sent the prisoner Ruhou to use his own talisman to recruit Changshui Xiaowei, but was defeated by Ma Tong (Mangtong) and failed, and Ruhou died; 7. He personally summoned Ren An, the envoy of the Northern Army, to send troops to the Northern Army, but Ren An accepted the talisman and stood still. 8. The citizens of Changan fought with the Prime Minister's three auxiliary soldiers, were defeated, and fled. Q6: What mistakes did Liu Zhi make in real history? A6: 1. The Qing emperor's slogan was wrong. When Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty returned to Jianzhang Palace, he easily backhanded him and declared the prince a treason. From the officials to the people, no one believed the prince's words anymore; 2. The military strength was not assembled enough, and the speed and scale of the troops were not enough. They could only watch Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty return to Chang'an after he was convinced. Q7: I always feel that a lot of things happened in Liu Shi's mutiny. Did this mutiny last for a long time in history? A7: Whether in the novel or in real history, the rebellion was violent and rapid. Liu Zhi did so many things in A5. Guess how many days passed in real time from Jiang Chong's death to the prince's escape? The answer is nine days. July 9th to July 17th. Q8: Is it possible for Liu Ju to make a comeback? A8: Yes, 1. First of all, when announcing the reasons for raising troops to the officials politically, the legitimacy of the policy coming out of Ganquan Palace must be denied in a physical sense; 2. The Northern Army still has to win over, and the Northern Army and Sanfu County soldiers merged, basically declaring the prince to be sent from the level of combat effectiveness; 3. Trapping Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty and not allowing him to return to Jianzhang Palace (Jianzhang Palace is just outside Chang'an City) Q9: What should be the most dangerous moment in real history when Liu Zheng raised his troops? How should we break the situation? A9: Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty returned to Jianzhang Palace! (Say important things three times), because even if it is announced in political slogans that Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty is dead at this time, such as the story of Qin Shihuang's inspection of the sand dunes, as long as Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty shows up near Chang'an, there will always be weak wallflowers leaning on both sides. Moreover, during the Western Han Dynasty, people were generally superstitious about ghosts and gods. An emperor who had been declared dead suddenly appeared in Chang'an City, and there were so many myths and stories... Q10: Is there anything weird about the witchcraft disaster in real history? A10: There are many, for example, the prince and the queen could not see the emperor, but the prime minister escaped and went to Ganquan Palace on the night when the prime minister's palace was attacked, and went to see him easily; another example is that Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty initially just wanted to summon the prince to Ganquan Palace for a confrontation, but the envoy did not dare to enter Chang'an City and come back to report false news. Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty was furious and authorized the prime minister to quell the rebellion, and the gears of fate began to turn... Q11: What needs to be done for Liu Ju's mutiny to succeed A11: 1. Politically declare the physiological death of Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty and dispel the legitimacy of the Ganquan Palace edict; 2. Recruit more soldiers to defeat Liu Quyao (Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty authorized Liu Quyao to quell the rebellion. There are too many doubts in the process, and it takes too long. Fast, there is no time to escape) 3; Trapping Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty in Ganquan Palace, he has complete strategic initiative. Q12: Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty has such a high reputation. Why did Liu Ju raise his troops because he knew he would lose? A12: Liu Ju's only reference at that time was Fusu. Think of Fusu's fate! Moreover, Liu Zhi's character was actually quite strong. At that time, his situation was that if he raised an army, he would not necessarily die, but if he did not raise an army, he would die. So... Sometimes, even if something seemed hopeless, there would always be someone who would give it a go, such as Chen Sheng, Wu Guang, Zhu Di, and... Liu Zhi. So much has been sorted out in bits and pieces. Thank you for your support. I sincerely wish you all the best.
One's own opinion
Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty is an emperor who is difficult to evaluate but at least he is a smart man visible to the naked eye A lot of women around him since childhood sent him to the position of prince. When he came to the throne, he wanted to make a difference, and was taught by an old lady. After the death of Empress Dowager Dou, it can be said that there was no one else who could control him except his mother. Even if there was opposition to his policies, he would always find a way around it. So he fought against the Xiongnu for 54 years after reigning for 46 years. He wasted people and money, and went to war, but it really carved the mark of Han into the bones of every Han people. Afraid of death in his later years, he still reuses capable people as he did when he was young, regardless of his morality and conduct. Then he got out of his way and killed the prince who was most suitable to take over his position. This can be said to be a bifurcation point in the direction of history But he reacted immediately, made timely remedies, no longer superstitious about immortality, recognized the country's people's livelihood level, rehabilitated the prince, and adjusted his national policy after his death in the way of a sinful edict. In order to let the heir and Minister Tuogu have no constraints, he killed his favorite wife in his later years The minister Tuogu he chose was also a very perfect talent. His power, his martial arts. It is far from just reading a few history books and having the so-called foresight to defeat it Real history is basically a matter of seeing one's tactics and taking advantage of them. No matter how much foresight is taken, if the details are not implemented in place, it will collapse. It is hard for me to imagine that a modern person can successfully rebel if he does not cheat. Even the old and dim Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, even though he is old, has been in power for a long time and has accumulated great power. The first-mover advantage is no longer something you can solve by using tricks You said that you can rebel successfully, I think that was deliberately given to you
Li Shimin, who rebelled against Emperor Taizong of the Tang Dynasty, has given an accurate model for controlling the imperial city. The number of people can be small, but key positions and characters must be controlled. It is best to kill competitors and not keep them, so that subsequent operations can be easy. Then let the ministers decide their names and refrain from massacres. The previous opposition should leave a certain amount of time to slowly clean up and let their own forces replace the opposition forces. This way you have your own basic base. Controlling military power is important. But it's not about fighting a war, as long as you control the military power of the imperial city. External military power can be gradually collected by transferring posts and controlling money and food. Why don't you, the author, look at such a good model? Do you rely on words and theories?
The problem is military power. Major issues must be resolved quickly, and beheading is the priority.
The wheat is ripe five thousand times, and the people are long live for the first time
What the hell are you writing about? Rebellion must be unexpected and be resolved quickly. What's the use of waiting in Chang'an?
Can you please stop calling me an adult and find someone else?
Will you update it today? It's very beautiful. Liu Ju, who was constantly being knocked down, is at least normal...
Why are historical time-travel novels almost all about soul travel, and many protagonists still have systems or personal space? It is better to write that the protagonist can travel between modern and ancient times through time and space channels. After all, it is based on Einstein's theory of relativity. It is very interesting to write about the protagonist traveling between modern times and ancient times through time and space channels. This can show the direct collision between modern times and ancient times. There are already many stories about the protagonists rebelling in the early Qing Dynasty, including the Kangxi Dynasty and the Yongzheng Dynasty. It would be interesting to write a book in which the protagonist rebelled between Kublai Khan and Yuan Dynasty in the Yuan Dynasty or Zhu Yuanzhang and Hongwu Year in the Ming Dynasty.
We must fight for Ren An. If he is here, it will be inconvenient for Liu Zhi to do anything.
I found it funny when I saw someone talking about learning from Li Shimin in the comment section.
Byd Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty did not live in Chang'an City, and Li Shimin could not control the entire Chang'an army. Like Liu Zhi, Li Shimin only really controlled his own East Palace Guards. Why did Li Shimin succeed? Didn't you seize the opportunity to raid the emperor all at once? Historically, Liu Ju was forced to revolt, and the emperor was not in Chang'an. How could it succeed?
Wei Qing, Huo Qubing and everyone have solutions even if they are alive.
It's a pity that both gold cards were short-lived. Emperor Qin and Emperor Wu of Han were both very similar emperors, and they were isolated from the inside and outside by the palace people when they were old. The difference was that Emperor Wu of Han had stronger personal abilities and control over the country than Qin Shihuang. He did not die in his second life like Qin Shihuang did. He knew his mistakes and was able to correct them. He pardoned the descendants of Prince Ru and issued an edict for his sins, which set the tone for Huo Guang's future strategy of self-cultivation.
It's so damn frustrating that after finishing the whole book, there's still no way to raise an army in the imperial palace.
To do things to the best of your ability, take advantage of them early, as Emperor Qi Ming once said, haha. It's time to arrange for Liu Che, Liu Zhi and Wei Zifu to reunite in Ganquan Palace, and the protagonist returns to Chang'an to ascend the throne
Pity
In fact, the plot is quite smooth. From the rebellion plan at the beginning to the infrastructure construction to improve productivity, it is quite interesting, but it seems that it is about to be cut.
Some are too strong on one's side
This is a child's play, even smoother than the Xuanwumen coup. Li Shimin was able to make a comeback, mainly because more than one-third of the generals supported the Tiance Admiral's Mansion, as well as a group of elite direct descendants from the Tiance Mansion. And Liu Zheng had nothing except the tenants of the Prince's Mansion. After Wei Qing's death, except for the civilian officials, the military did not support Liu Zhi. Unless he acted directly like Li Shimin and stunned Li Yuan who was still rowing with his concubine.
"When a son makes a mistake, he doesn't want to explain the situation to his father, and immediately comes to beg for his forgiveness, but directly rebels. This is just like an old woman getting a young man as her husband. It is a shameful thing." This is the original words written by the author. It is really disgusting that I can't hide my misogyny secretly. It's disgusting.