
Li Chengqian of the Tang Dynasty: Your Majesty, Please Say Long Live
大唐李承乾:请陛下称万岁
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The conspiracy is overdone.
First, let's talk about Li Chengqian's broken leg. Ninety-nine percent of it was an accident. First, Li Shimin is not Li Yuan; Li Chengqian is not Li Shimin. Li Shimin is a natural-strategic general who has countless elite soldiers and generals to be qualified to launch the Xuanwu Gate Rebellion. Li Chengqian's prestige and situation are not enough to support him to launch the Xuanwu Gate Rebellion. Most of Li Chengqian's subordinates were descendants of meritorious officials, including their legitimate sons. Li Chengqian was unable to persuade them to rebel. Therefore, it is pure nonsense to say that Li Shimin is afraid of Li Chengqian. Second, no prince would dare to do such a thing under Li Shimin's eyes. If something like this happened, Li Shimin would not tolerate him if there was even the slightest possibility that it was done by a certain prince. Li Shimin's change in the Xuanwu Gate was the general trend but not of his own free will. Li Shimin, who thought that an emperor like Li Shimin would never choose a conspirator to be the emperor, was not willing, and those heroes were even less willing. Changsun Wuji is not a fool. Why don't so many princes help a man who will do whatever it takes to achieve his goal? Why would you make yourself uncomfortable by putting such a person on the throne? If Li Zhi hadn't pretended to be harmless to humans and animals, would he have been supported by Changsun Wuji? Therefore, if this matter was really planned by a certain prince, it could never be Li Zhi. Third, there is indeed no disabled emperor in history, but there is no clear rule that disabled people cannot be emperors. So in this ambiguous situation, as long as Li Chengqian doesn't do anything, Li Shimin won't care about it, and it's not because he is infertile. As a prince with future memories, the protagonist does not reflect on his later actions and blames his father and brothers? Now that we have acquired knowledge from the future to modern times, why can't we learn from Zhu Gaochi? In the same way, people with disabilities are still born with disabilities. Even if their younger brother or the prince with military power rebels, they still sit firmly on the throne and can't copy homework? After obtaining the knowledge of the future, I didn't think about how to benefit the people and serve the country, but I was immersed in intrigues and intrigues with my father, brothers and ministers every day. How could the Tang Dynasty be like this? The author doesn't think that a group of selfish hypocrites can achieve a great cause like the prosperous Tang Dynasty, when all nations came to dynasty, right? I really don't understand that the author really thinks that someone will read this kind of thing?
Surprisingly not bad
Maybe it was because I had low expectations, but it turned out to be surprisingly good. But there are many problems. Writing: The timeline changes are too stiff, and the scene transitions are too. Overall: I think many places are too wordy, and the overall plot is draggy. 260W words feel like too many, and 200W is enough. Plot: Many of the plots are too "enjoyable". I know the author wants to write a Machiavellian story, but most people who can come in with your title still hope that the plot is more "enjoyable". If the kings of Wei and Jin are really difficult to arrange, then what about Fang Xuanling? From Li Chengqian's current perspective, his broken leg was the root cause of the tragedy in his previous life. Don't you hate it in your heart? Even if you hold back for a moment, when the time comes, he must be killed. Not only must he be killed, but he must also be treated like a pig! Let him die in anger. Yes, you can sacrifice a lot for the throne, but no one said that the emperor can't hold grudges, right? The broken leg was the most painful thing in Li Chengqian's heart, so it just passed? ? The nine Xuanling clan plotted against the dead man and told him the truth before he died. This kind of plot can support a large wave of plots and is also a great climax. But now there is nothing. Readers will feel frustrated after reading it over and over again. I read this book more than once and thought about what's so good about being an emperor. Starting from the prince, I was too tired, too tired, and aggrieved. I didn't enjoy it. I was walking on thin ice, being a chicken-feather emperor
Good book. I feel like I've grown my brain.
I've heard a lot about Poisonous Persimmon, and suddenly when I read this book by the author, I felt like I've gained a lot of brains. It's good, it's very good.
Ah, this! It's hard to comment
What operation is this?
Li Shimin is here, you can't rebel. Take a good look at Li Shimin's achievements. Among all the emperors, he is in the top five. Li Yuan is incomparable to Li Shimin. There is also the Xuanwu Sect. You are probably the one who will die.
Tired
When the protagonist is a prince, he plots and plots every day. When the protagonist is an emperor, he plots and plots every day. It feels like the author can't write anything else except these!
Many people don't understand why in the late Tang Taizong period, there was an opportunity to practice Xuanwu Sect? Actually, many people don't know that Li Shimin conquered Goryeo three times. And the scale is getting bigger and bigger each time. Even during the third conquest of Goryeo, wealthy places like Jiannan Road had reached the point where "the people were selling their fields and houses, and their children could not be provided for" and rebelling. In the second year, Li Shimin died of illness, and the Eastern Expedition to Korea was stopped. Otherwise, it would be difficult to say that he would be the next Yang Guang.
I feel that the protagonist is a little too weak when facing Erfeng. Find a reason, bring the queen's spiritual tablet, and say in front of the queen's tomb that Erfeng cannot accommodate the prince and wants to make Qingque the prince. Then hit it head on.
If Li Chengqian was lame and didn't rebel, do you think Erfeng would give him the throne?
Why does everyone think that they can rebel against Li Shimin? Rebellion requires the right time, place and people. First of all, the heroes of Lingyan Pavilion will not allow you to rebel against Li Shimin because you can't give them more. They did not control the power of the court during Li Shimin's time. It is impossible for you to rebel and rise to power. Besides, you look down on Li Shimin too much. He started his career as a rebel. How could he not be prepared?
Li Chengqian purely committed suicide by himself. Li Shimin never thought about changing the crown prince. Even when Li Chengqian was lame and a minister suggested changing the crown prince, Li Shimin didn't agree. Li Shimin was right in doting on Li Tai, but the greatest power given to Li Tai was the literature museum. He did not give any personnel or military power, and the rewards he gave were money. And how did Li Chengqian commit suicide? He wore Turkic clothes, learned Turkic etiquette, and found someone to assassinate his brother and teacher.
Travel through the Tang Dynasty and rely on memory to rebel?
Isn't this a joke? What's the difference between this and Zhu Di's rebellion against Zhu Yuanzhang in the Ming Dynasty? Li Shimin was afraid of rebellion every day, which made everyone laugh Li Shimin was the most confident emperor in himself, no one else He went to Yanmen to rescue Yang Guang when he was a teenager, and at the age of nineteen he led the cavalry to defeat the enemy and rescue Li Yuan Liu Wuzhou, Dou Jiande, and Wang Shichong did it one by one, and at the age of twenty-three, he was awarded the title of General Tiance Would he be afraid of a prince who had never been on a battlefield? He might as well be afraid of the possibility of his father Li Yuan's restoration Traveling through the past and relying on memories to connect local forces to rebel against Li Shimin is really a mouse looking for arsenic
Too many conspiracy theories
The author has too many secondary assumptions (maybe unofficial history and the like). The Tang Zhenguan period should not be unpredictable and changeable. For a dynasty that was just founded, and for an emperor who fought in the south and north, it is too outrageous to think that everyone in the last years of the dynasty had ulterior motives. No matter what kind of person Li Shimin is, if he is the kind of thing the author writes, it would be too funny.
Absolute alien monster
So many demons from outside the territory come here to open books.
The author thinks too highly of Wu Zetian. What happened to Wu Zetian was not something she was born with. It was also tempered through too much experience. Wu Zetian, who was still talented, had the courage to be an emperor. As long as she was not given a chance to grow up, the Empress Wu Zhou would never appear.
Shen Nong tastes white grass: palace struggle for power and civil affairs, rebellion and rise to power
Background, the protagonist is the prince Li Chengqian, Li Shimin, who is 40 years old (should be 42 years old) in the 14th year of Zhenguan. The main body of the novel: the power struggle in the palace Viewpoint: Criticize it. At this time, Li Chengqian challenges the founding emperor, the young and strong Li Shimin? Or is it a palace fight for power and a conspiracy to gain power? There is no majestic avenue and rolling torrent of general trend? Is he worthy? What is the founding emperor? What does it mean to be young and strong? You get the memory of future generations. You know that he died within a few years. Does the minister know? He is only in his 40s. Brother, how did you conspire to rebel? And it was a conspiracy? I think it is very poisonous to compare the conspiracy emperor with the founding emperor... I can still understand your idea of a grand road, but you are engaging in conspiracy... I don't understand, I am very puzzled Conclusion, Shennong is dead
The protagonist's personality is split
For example, there was no serious punishment when dealing with members of the clan. Before he became emperor, he could show his fatherly kindness and son's filial piety in front of Li Shimin, but after he became emperor, he was still so weak and cared about family ties. I really didn't expect that I didn't know an emperor who said he was ruthless but always treated the clan children with dignity and ease. Take Princess Gaoyang as an example. Historically, she was promiscuous, interfered in politics, and rebelled. In the protagonist's life, she was still like that, doing some dirty things, which made people feel disgusted and wanted to interfere in political affairs. When the protagonist found out, he yelled angrily and wanted to educate her to change her evil ways. Many corpses lying in the backyard of the princess's house laughed. Having the memory of one or two thousand years, they have wiped out some unworthy people. While talking about the hardships of a family and bringing happiness to the people, they always treat the children of the clan with a wide margin. If the children of the clan go out to enfeoff and do bad things when they grow up, they are not a family, right? Co-author Only wealthy families whose surname is not Li and who are not relatives of the Li family are aristocratic families, right? Isn't this just about attacking political opponents? Why are you doing it under the banner of serving the people? You are really responsible and upright. It seems that the wind of civilization in later generations cannot blow away the protagonist's stinky soul belonging to the feudal dynasty.
It's hard to get enough of it (translation excerpt)
Wei Zheng: People change
Author, go to the female channel and write about palace battles. You will definitely be able to write it well.
It's a bit nonsense, it's written that Li Shimin wanted to depose the prince because of his lameness. The abolition of the crown prince was caused by many factors. After Li Chengqian became lame, his psychology was distorted, and he couldn't help his father's love for Li Tai. The ministers criticized Li Chengqian's ridiculous behavior and other chain factors. In the end, he rebelled and was abolished. Isn't it sheer nonsense to say that Li Shimin wanted to depose the crown prince because of his lameness? At most, he is mentally uncomfortable. How could he suddenly want to depose the prince? You have to know how many ridiculous behaviors Li Chengqian did behind him! The idea of deposing the crown prince has been abolished long ago. Why wait until the rebellion is abolished? Written by colleagues is good
The prince next door made me laugh. Let's see what this book is like.
Here is a lightning protection for everyone, don't waste your money. The one that asked His Majesty to call the prince, there was a trend of AI in the later period, The characteristics are very obvious, the character's mentality changes like a split personality, and then a bunch of meaningless descriptions of the heart and expression Then there is the popular science and hydrology There are two major lightning points 1. Chang'an was shocked to see 500 Goryeo warriors wearing armor and holding crossbows assassinating the prince at the Furong Garden Poetry Festival. 2. Prince Liaodong developed in two and a half years and penetrated the Tang Dynasty 🙂 Genius Why do you come here to complain, well... Spending money to read books written by AI makes me feel cheated. I am going to post a list of Sui and Tang Dynasties in each historical category.
It lacks the domineering power of an emperor and is almost all calculation.
The fight with Li Tai in the early stage, and then the fight with Li Zhi, interspersed with the fight with the emperor, gave people a feeling of being unable to let go. When I became emperor in the middle and later stages, I originally thought it would be a great experience, and I should let my hands and feet go free and do something big, but it turns out that the emperor has returned to his glory again, which is really disgusting. Then he followed Di Renjie's example and asked Li Chungang to cause trouble, which was unnecessary. The majestic atmosphere of the Tang Dynasty is not written out. It is all about patience, waiting, and accumulating strength. Accumulating and accumulating gives people a soft feeling.
Does this book really have a clue?
There is no plot at all, dozens of chapters and two attempts without any improvement, it is all narration nonsense, the buildings need to be introduced for a few paragraphs, it does not help the plot at all, and it cannot portray the characters. If Li Er needs to be afraid of the power of the East Palace, it is better to change the emperor to write it.
I have found a lot of books like this, and they all think that Li Shimin's Xuanwu Sect revolution can be successful. You think that Prince Li Chengqian would also rebel? ? ? Still think you can succeed? ? Let's not talk about whether you can outperform Li Shimin in conspiracy, but you can't outplay Fang Mou Duduan and Changsun Wuji? Don't even think that these three people can be won over by you? The premise for you to win over is that Li Shimin sides with you? Then even if your rebellion succeeds, can you stabilize the situation? Li Shimin was supported by generals such as Yuchi Gong, Cheng Yaojin and others. Although Qin Qiong and Li Jing were neutral, they were also biased towards Li Shimin to a certain extent. May I ask where are Li Chengqian's Qin Qiong, Li Jingwei and Chi Gong? ? ?
Just by looking at the name, you can tell what the urinary properties of 7 are. After watching a TV series, I was really brainwashed... If he openly engages in homosexuality, no matter how many excuses he has, he will become a deposed prince.
A rare historical masterpiece
It's so beautiful It just lacks updates.
This book is well written, but it always feels like a child's play. Because the position of the prince with one leg is almost gone. What kind of emperor has not been in history? You can surpass the status of the prince by compiling a history book. Are you kidding me? How many battles for the right to inherit the throne have been written so simply by you.
About Li Chengqian's Misunderstandings in the Old and New Tang Books
1. Love Turkic culture. The original text of the "Old Book of Tang Dynasty": Dozens of household slaves are often ordered to specialize in musical instruments, learn from the barbarian people's vertebra bun, use colorful jianjian as dance clothes, look for pegs and dance swords, day and night, and the sound of drums and horns can be heard outside every day. Looking at the records in the old Tang books, it is only said that Li Chengqian liked the music of the Hu people. The Tang Dynasty was an era when the Hu style was prevalent. This can be seen from the unearthed cultural relics. Compared with the Qin and Han Dynasties, the difference between his clothes and clothes is very obvious. The "Old Book of Tang" did not say that Li Chengqian loved Turks. This concept was put forward by the "New Book of Tang". Later, when Sima Guang revised "Zi Zhi Tong Jian", he wrote about this incident again. "New Tang Book" text: Build a large copper stove and a six-cooked tripod, recruit slaves to steal people, cattle and horses, personally watch the cooking, and call the lucky ones to raise and eat them together. He also liked the Turks' words and subdued them, and selected those with a similar appearance to those with beards. They were given sheep coats and braided hair. Five people built a tent, set up a felt house, made five wolf-headed banners, split halberds into formations, tied flags and flags, and set up dome huts to live in. They ordered the tribes to gather sheep to cook and draw sabers to cut the meat and eat it. Cheng Qian died as a Khan. He made everyone cry and wipe their faces, and galloping horses surrounded him. Suddenly he rose up and said, "If you want me to conquer the world, ride tens of thousands of them to the golden city. Then I will untie my hair and devote myself to thinking about it. I will act accordingly and don't worry about evil!" The left and right people whispered to each other and thought they were monsters. He also used rugs of felt as armor, set up red banners, and tied up the troops in formation. He separated from the Han Dynasty King Yuanchang and shouted for joy in attacking and stabbing. Those who don't need their lives will be covered with trees and beaten to death, while those who are less likely to rot will easily die. "New Book of Tang" added to Li Chengqian the performance art of pretending to be a Turk, and the evil deeds of pretending to be a Turk to rob people's things. It also added the sentence "Those who don't need their lives should be covered with trees and killed, or they will die, and those who are less likely to rot will rot." It portrays Li Chengqian as someone who regards human life as nothing. 2. Li Chengqian led his troops to surrender to the Turkic Li Simo. There is no record in the "Old Book of Tang" and "Tang Huiyao". Many people will say that the "Old Book of Tang" is obscure. The Old Book of Tang was written by the later Jin Dynasty, not by the Tang Dynasty, so there is no need to be obscure. When Ouyang Xiu wrote "New Book of Tang", why he positioned the Hu people as Turks? It may be because Li Chengqian named his son Li Jue, so Ouyang Xiu felt that Li Chengqian liked the culture of the Hu people, and the Hu people refer to Turks. It may also be related to Yu Zhining's first book in the 15th year of Zhenguan, "Admonishing Prince Cheng Qian to Introduce Turkic Da Gezhi to the Palace". Li Chengqian hosted a banquet in the East Palace for the Turkic leader Da Gezhi. The "Old Book of Tang" is the only historical data found about Li Chengqian's dealings with Turks. 3. The original text of Li Chengqian's murder of Yan Guan is: As the emperor, I should indulge my desires; if anyone has advice, I will kill them. Is it not certain to kill five hundred people? This sentence also comes from the "New Book of Tang". There is no record of this sentence in the documents obtained before this, including Li Shimin's "Edict to Depose the Crown Prince and Accept Qian as a Commoner", which scolded Li Chengqian for having a complete body, and did not mention these events. 4. Li Chengqian's witchcraft incident in the thirteenth year of Zhenguan. This event is not recorded in historical materials such as "Old Book of Tang", "New Book of Tang", and "Tang Huiyao". It first appeared in "Zi Zhi Tong Jian". The relevant records of Buddhism probably found out the source of this matter, why Sima Guang said that Li Chengqian engaged in witchcraft. The "Extended Biography of Eminent Monks" compiled in the 19th year of Zhenguan recorded the original text: By the winter of the 13th year. There is the Yellow Turban Qin Shiying. Use alchemy to invite honor. Then the chengqi was stored in Chu Er. Jealousy releases seeds. Yin Chenlin talked about slandering the emperor. The crime should be punished. The emperor suddenly issued an edict to eliminate monks and nuns. The "Internal Code of the Tang Dynasty" compiled in the first year of Linde (664) also records this matter: There was a Taoist priest Qin Ying. Fan the palace prince. Yilin writes articles that slander and destroy you, our ancestors. Emperor Wen was furious. When Shi Daoshi compiled "Fayuan Zhulin" in the first year of the General Chapter (668), he said this: It was as recent as the thirteenth year of Zhenguan. There is Qin Ying, a Taoist priest from Xihua Temple in Xijing. Wei Lingfu, a Taoist priest from Huishengguan, and Zhu Qingxin, a Taoist priest who returned to secular life. He also wrote down Zhang Jiao's edict to serve in the East Palace. Confusing the East Palace. Conspiracy and carelessness lead to failure. Qin Ying's spiritual talisman inspiration, etc. And was executed. Private property, wife and children. And assigned to the official position. "Continued Biography of Eminent Monks" and "Datang Nei Dian Lu" translate: There was a Taoist priest named Qin Ying who hated Buddhism and said bad things to the prince, saying that Shi Falin had slandered Li Er, the ancestor of Li Tang. The emperor here refers to Li Er, the Taoist ancestor. Li Chengqian reported this matter to Li Shimin, which caused Li Shimin to be furious and punished a group of monks. So far, it has not been said that Li Chengqian engaged in witchcraft. Shi Daoshi's sentence "Conspiracy and carelessness will lead to failure", Spring and Autumn's writing style, said nothing and said everything. When it comes to "Zizhi Tongjian", it becomes: Taoist Qin Ying and Wei Lingfu took advantage of Zuo Dao and got the crown prince. When the superiors heard about it, they were furious and waited for them to be killed. Several people were killed and even the prince was ordered to do so. "Taking Zuo Dao" directly said that Li Chengqian engaged in witchcraft, and then Li Shimin quickly executed Cheng Xin and others to protect Li Chengqian. First of all, the time does not match up. There is a clear record in the "Old Book of Tang". After the death of Chengxin, Li Chengqian thought it was Li Taijin who slandered him, so he directly asked He Qianchengji to kill Li Tai. There is a clear time for Li Tai's assassination. In the 16th year of Zhenguan, it is speculated that the killing of Chengxin was probably in the 15th or 16th year of Zhenguan. Cheng Xin should have died at the end of the 15th year, or the 16th year of Zhenguan. The official history of the "Old Book of Tang" records that Li Shimin went to Xiangcheng Palace in March of the 15th year of Zhenguan, and ran from Xiangcheng Palace to Mount Tai in June. He did not return to Chang'an until November. During this period, Li Chengqian has been supervising the country in Chang'an. From Li Chengqian's perspective: I worked hard to supervise the country for more than half a year, and I was as exhausted as the last time. When you came back, you killed me, Jie Yuhua, and asked Li Tai to live in Wude Hall. Sima Guang mixed these two events together in "Zi Zhi Tong Jian" and believed that the death of Youxin was caused by Li Chengqian's practice of witchcraft. However, mutual verification from the historical data of the Tang Dynasty showed that the two events were three years apart. The main ones in this incident are Qin Ying and Wei Lingfu. Wei Lingfu has no other information to check. In the fifth year of Qin Ying's reign in Zhenguan, Li Chengqian was seriously ill. Li Shimin asked this person to pray for Li Chengqian. Later, after Qin Ying's words were reported to Li Shimin by Li Chengqian, Li Shimin was furious. Qin Ying still had Li Shimin's trust. In this incident, I thought Li Shimin took this opportunity to suppress Buddhism, but in the end because Buddhism was relatively powerful, the attack failed and he hastily killed two cannon fodder to solve the problem. (Additional information about Sui and Tang Buddhism in the evaluation area) 5. The incident of Du He petitioning to kill Li Shimin. "Old Tang Book·Fang Xuanling Biography of Du Ruhui" mentions Du He, only saying that he is the son of Du Ruhui, who followed Li Chengqian to rebel, but was defeated and executed. "New Book of Tang·Biography of Fang Xuanling and Du Ruhui" adds a sentence: Please tell me about your illness, and you will be asked by your superiors, and you will be able to succeed. This is a common scene in movies and TV dramas nowadays. Du He suggested that Li Chengqian pretend to be ill, lure Li Shimin to the East Palace to visit his doctor, and then imprison Li Shimin.
To be honest, the writing is not good. In Chapter 13, Yan Liben completely regarded the ministers as fools. Li Tai was also eager for success, which was no good. However, the advisers, teachers, and subordinates of King Li Tai of Wei did not warn him. The author's writing was detailed enough, but his writing style and ideas were immature, and the writing was very average.
If you fight under such a talented and strategic emperor, you must fight openly and honestly, especially if you occupy the prince's righteousness and engage in conspiracy and small tricks, you will definitely die miserably.