
Is There Any Reason to Slander Xue Baochai?
到底有没有污蔑薛宝钗的理由
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Baochai also had another thing that was the most abominable. When she found out that Sister Lin had read The West Chamber, she wanted to say something about her changing her temperament. I'm very curious - if Baochai had never read a romance novel, how could she tell at a glance that the book in someone else's hand was Romance of the West Chamber? If she had read the romance storybook, how could she have the nerve to preach to others? If you are reading a romance novel and suddenly a cousin not only wants to preach to you, but also plans to sue your parents, can you hold back and not hit her?
To be fair, you are at least slightly better than the average brainless Chai Hei. You will use the original text in every possible way, and distort some common sense and knowledge. However, the objective facts and internal logic of the original work in black and white cannot be covered up by Chai Hei's out of context. Let me refute your Chai Hei's fallacy: 1. Regarding suspicions about Xue Pan I have to admit that you, Chai Hei, are right, and Baochai's suspicion of Xue Pan is indeed wrong. However, have you got some wrong ideas? And got some facts wrong in the original text? Let's see what you said: First, she didn't seek verification and simply believed Xi Ren's words - how did you ask her to "find verification"? Go to Prince Zhongshun's Mansion and ask the chief official who told you that Jia Baoyu and Qi Guan had an intersection? He ran out and asked the people who were at Feng Ziying's house that day (especially the prostitute Yun'er from Jinxiangyuan), "Which one of you told the secret?" You let a woman in a boudoir who "doesn't leave the front door or step out of the second door" wander around asking for real insiders? Have you watched too many female videos? Do you really think that ancient boudoir ladies had such great freedom of movement? Just look at the treatment of these unmarried women when they went back to the Taoist temple for a ritual ceremony on the 29th: Baochai was waiting to get out of the car, and all the women and daughters-in-law were surrounding her in a weather-proof environment. They were not allowed to even be seen outside the house, let alone take the initiative to find people outside to inquire about the situation. Yes, Baochai's suspicion was indeed wrong, but how much can we blame her? On the one hand, she has no direct way to seek confirmation from real insiders. On the other hand, isn't it undeniable that Xue Pan's own misconduct has attracted suspicion? You also quoted the original text of Chapter 34: "Xue Pandu had such a reputation in the past, but in fact it was not him this time. It was him who was bitten to death by a living person. It is difficult to tell the difference." Why can't you understand the point that "Xue Pandu had such a reputation in the past"? For example, if something is lost, and there happens to be a habitual thief among the people involved, is it not normal for you to focus your suspicion on a habitual thief when you have no investigative capabilities? You keep saying "reader's perspective, God's perspective", but you use "God's perspective" to require the "people in the story" to see it so comprehensively. Is this a confusion of standards? Second, you are talking about "What happened at that time? It was Jia Baoyu who was beaten, and Jia Baoyu was the darling of Jia Mu and Mrs. Wang. When he was beaten, Jia Mu was not comfortable, let alone Mrs. Wang. It was because they did not check in front of others, but Jia Mu and Mrs. Wang were behind the scenes. Who will not investigate who caused Jia Baoyu to suffer this crime? In other words, it would be fine if Mrs. Jia Muwang did not pursue the case. If these two men were pursued, they would certainly be angry with Jia Baoyu for not living up to expectations and Jia Zheng with a bad temper, but Xue Pan would be fine if he was charged in vain. " I laughed. You really have a rich imagination. Not to mention that Jia Mu's "investigation" was not mentioned at all. Mrs. Wang's investigation of this matter stopped at Chapter 34: Mrs. Wang called again: "Stand, I think of something to ask you." Xiren came back in a hurry. Seeing that there was no one in the room, Mrs. Wang asked: "I vaguely heard that Baoyu was beaten today, and it was Huan'er who said something in front of the master. Did you hear this? If you want to hear it, tell me, and I won't make a noise to let others know that it was you who said it." Xiren said, "I didn't hear this, because the second master occupied the actor, and he came to ask for it, and he was beaten for this." Mrs. Wang shook her head and said, "It's also for this, and there are other reasons." Mrs. Wang was suspicious of "Jia Huan's words". She didn't even have any doubts about the "actor". She simply said "for this reason" and brushed it off. In the original work, Xue Pan was not challenged or targeted by the Jia family at all because of this matter. All the things you said about "checking behind the scenes" and "Xue Pan is okay" are all based on your wild imagination. Let us follow common sense and reason based on the conditions you imagined. As mentioned before, Baochai, as a boudoir woman, has no way to "find proof", but married women and old feudal lords like Jia Mu and Mrs. Wang do? Don't you watch too many spy movies and house fighting stories? The "actor" incident is not entirely an internal incident of the Jia family. The people who may actually know about "reporting to Prince Zhongshun's family" are precisely people outside the Jia family (people who gathered at Feng Ziying's house that day). Even if Jia's mother and Mrs. Wang suspect the "actor" matter, how can they investigate? To take a step back, even if they also listened to Baoming's gossip and suspected Xue Pan, so what? You don't think that this matter can go to the government and be litigated like the Calabash case, do you? And speaking of internal processing? You wouldn't completely equate Jia Zhen and Xue Pan, would you? Didn't you also believe other Chaihei's lies about "the status of the Xue family is lower than that of the Jia family"? Xue Pan's surname is Xue, which is "extremely rich and powerful" that coexists with the Jia family in Jinling's "Guardian Talisman", and it is a combination of officialdom and business. Nobles, not to mention that Mother Xue and Mrs. Wang are biological sisters. Even if they are dissatisfied with the direct young masters of other families and their own relatives, they will not go beyond "screaming and scolding" children like Jia Zhen, right? In fact, in terms of relatives and other aspects of face, there may not even be a "swearing". After all, Xue Pan is someone else's child. You don't think that "jealous and suing for stealing the actor's role" is a serious matter worthy of the two families going to war, right? In the final analysis, isn't this a case of Jia Baoyu's personal misconduct, wandering around as an actor, and having the greatest responsibility for giving away personal belongings? What kind of thinking do you have to treat this matter in such a way that separates and opposes all parties and ignores common sense? He also "lost his life", which is too shocking! It's so imaginative! After reading the original work comprehensively, is it difficult to think with common sense? First of all, your words are not supported by the original text. On the contrary, they are denied by the original text! The second is to completely ignore human common sense and only immerse yourself in the so-called "house fighting" literary thoughts. How can Dream of Red Mansions be comparable to this kind of literature that is obsessed with fighting between chickens and gooses? Third, regarding Xue Baochai's advice, you said, "I have no brotherhood for Xue Pan, my compatriot brother, and I don't even have the most basic trust. Xue Baochai didn't put himself in the right position at all. He was so high-spirited that he treated her as his younger sister. , I didn't know that she was still Aunt Xue. ""In fact, this matter is the same as the Gourd Case at the beginning of the story. The most important thing for Xue Baochai and the Xue family is not to blame Xue Pan, but to find the real instigator in front of Mrs. Jia Muwang and clear Xue Pan. " As for your second fallacy, I have already refuted it in the previous two points. Mrs. Jiamu Wang did not ask much about the "actor" matter at all, and the person who instigated Prince Zhongshun's palace was not someone Baochai could verify. What's more, the nature of the whole thing cannot be compared with the Hulu case. Apart from anything else, it is enough to distinguish it from going to court to accept judicial review and judgment. In the eyes of the parents of the Jia family, this matter is at best "Jia Baoyu and Xue Pan's jealous revenge for stealing the actor", and will not be regarded as a major matter worthy of war. Here we talk about the so-called "lack of brotherhood" and "failure to position oneself". I don't know what experiences you, Chaihei, have had to have such a dark mind to look at the activities of Xue Pan and Baochai's brothers and sisters. As the saying goes, "A melon field does not accept shoes, and a plum blossom does not hold a high position." Xue Pan happens to be a person with "this reputation." Isn't it human nature to be suspicious without the ability to verify? What's more, you didn't understand Baochai's words at all: "Mom and brother, please don't shout. If it goes away, something will happen." Yin said to Xue Pan, "Whether it was you who said it or not, the matter has passed. There is no need to prove it, but it makes a small matter bigger. I only advise you to start from now on." Stop messing around outside, and stop meddling in other people's business. You are a careless person, and you will be fine. If something happens, it is not your fault, and everyone will doubt it. Needless to say, I will doubt others first. " Can't you see what Baochai said, "Things have passed. There is no need to prove it, but it makes a small matter bigger." She doesn't believe it, but you really like to hold on to the "actor" thing. What was the content of her subsequent admonishment to Xue Pan? It was because he was afraid that Xue Pan would continue to behave like this and that he would cause trouble for himself and damage his brother's reputation. For example, like this time, even if it was not done by Xue Pan, many people would suspect that it was Xue Pan who did it, making him bear the burden of suspicion and accusations. The point of Baochai's words was clearly to remind Xue Pan to be careful in his words and deeds, for Xue Pan's sake. How does it become "no brotherhood"? If there is really "no brotherhood and basic trust", why can she safely let her brother go on a trip to learn business in Chapter 48? How can I "look at him with four tearful eyes" with my mother? Your reading and understanding abilities are truly commendable. As for the so-called "failure to position yourself correctly," I think your thinking is a bit dangerous, and you don't seem to understand Confucian culture. Yes, Confucianism advocates the concept of "filial piety" and the obedience of subordinates to superiors - but Confucianism also has the theory of "admonishment", which advocates that subordinates should have the courage to correct mistakes when superiors make mistakes. For example, the Filial Piety Classic says: "If a father criticizes his son, he will not fall into injustice." Although Baochai is a younger sister, Baochai dared to point out his brother's shortcomings in words and deeds, instead of blindly submissive. Isn't this kind of behavior a beneficial remonstrance to Xue Pan? Even Cao Xueqin commented on Baochai's remonstrance to Xue Pan as "Everything is reasonable". Why do you just give it an out-of-the-box evaluation of "Can't figure out the position"? From another perspective, let alone the modern belief that all men are created equal, it is natural and reasonable for brothers and sisters to correct each other's mistakes. Even the traditional Confucianism does not prohibit subordinates from pointing out the mistakes of their superiors. And you are extremely dissatisfied with Baochai's behavior in admonishing your brother - in your eyes, as a sister, you should be humble and submissive, and you don't have to correct your brother's mistakes, and you can't even say unfavorable advice that is beneficial to your brother without any harm, and everything is for the sake of your brother's satisfaction? This idea is too dangerous, too "more feudal than feudal"! As for what you said about "more sympathy for Xue Pan", do you know? You were slapped in the face by Xue Pan. Just look at Chapter 35. In Chapter 34, Xue Pan was drunk again and yelled angrily. When he woke up in Chapter 35, he immediately went to apologize to his mother, especially his sister Baochai, and issued a sincere "confession": Xue Pan heard it outside and ran over quickly. He bowed to Baochai on the left and right, and said: "Good sister, please forgive me this time! It turns out that I had a drink yesterday and came back late. I bumped into a stranger on the road and got caught. I didn't wake up when I came home. I don't know what nonsense I talked about. I don't even know myself. I can't blame you for being angry." "There's no need for mom to be angry, and there's no need for sister to be upset. How about I never eat, drink, and hang out with them from now on?" "If I hang around with them again, and my sister just spits at me and calls me a beast, not a human being, how about it? Why bother, my mother and I worry about me every day! It's forgivable for my mother to be angry for me, but if I just ask my sister to worry about me, I'm not a human anymore. Now that my father is gone, I can't be more filial to my mother and love my sister. Instead, I teach my mother to be angry and troubled by my sister. I'm really not even as good as a beast." Even Dai Bawang knows that what Baochai said is true, why do you, Chaihei, refuse to admit it to your death? The one on the left "has no brotherhood" and the one on the right "fails to position himself correctly", slandering Baochai's sincere and reasonable admonitions and slandering the sincere and warm family relationship between brothers and sisters into a mess and beyond recognition. Is this your purpose? Did Baochai persuade Baoyu to become Jia Yucun? Why should Baochai applaud Baochai's "Crab Ying Baoyu" who satirized Jia Yucun and others? Did you mention Jia Yucun? Very good, come on, look back and forth, whose teacher is Jia Yucun? Who thought Jia Yucun was a good scholar and hired him for his daughter? Who wrote a letter of recommendation to his brother-in-law, insisting that Jia Yucun find a way to resume his official position? Is it Xue Baochai or a member of Daiyu's family? If you can't read the book or haven't read the book, please don't show up and slap yourself in the face, okay? What were the Four Books and Five Classics used for at that time? That was a textbook used for scientific examinations at that time, okay? People who don't understand this should stop accusing others of telling nonsense about career economics. Why are you showing off when you don't even understand the basic ideas of the author and the hero? Jia Zheng is a salary thief. Is this what Baoyu said, or the author, or did this fool just make up his own mind? If it is what the author said, please show evidence. If it is just your own imagination, please slap yourself in the face. Why don't you beat yourself with a broom? You can't read or understand articles, so you still have the nerve to scold others?
Didi Cuiting framed Daiyu and was unable to clean herself up, which shows that Xue Baochai's bad conduct is evident.
I hate Xue Baochai precisely because of the Didi Cuiting incident - ever since I told a classmate that I had bad xxx habits and didn't want to affect a certain friend, but she rectified it and told my friend, "Suifeng told me that your xxx was not good in a certain public place." She also falsely said that a certain senior present may have heard it, which made me speechless and had a cold war with my friends for a long time - I especially hate people who spread rumors and cause trouble.
Not only did he blame Daiyu for the eavesdropping, but he also said, "It's better to be bitten by a snake", letting others take the blame for you and then cursed them to death. It's super uneducated and unethical.
There are some advantages to Xue, and I admire her ability, but I would not dare to have a close relationship with this kind of person, no matter ancient or modern times.
I despise her for wanting Xue Pan to marry Daiyu. Do you think Wang Sicong can marry the daughter of the mayor of Shanghai? Wang Sicong has never killed anyone.
At that time, Lin was a lady from an official family. Even though her parents died, her family was still a scholar. What is Xue? The one who is my sister all day long is called Lin. Only the Jia family, an obscure family, would be so indulgent. In the feudal dynasty, scholars, farmers, industry and merchants were no joke.
Baoyu and Daiyu are a couple. Ignoring what the monks and Taoists said in the previous article, just saying that they do things in the world, it is acquiescence that the two people are engaged or at least have the intention to be engaged. No one stopped Baoyu from picking up the names and arranging to live in the same place. They also used the Lin family's wealth very smoothly. If ordinary relatives did this, even if they were related by blood, Lin Daiyu was definitely killed, and it was not considered paranoia.
Whether Daiyu or Baochai, every character in Dream of Red Mansions cannot be defined simply by good or bad. Without the environment in the text, they would not be able to live the way they do in the text, nor can they become the people in the text. I haven't read the book of Dream of Red Mansions, and I haven't watched the entire TV series (I skipped to watch the old version, but I haven't watched a single episode of the new version). I don't have any big likes or dislikes about the characters.