
Traveling Through 1570: the Rise of South America
穿越1570之崛起南美
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The establishment of countries outside East Asia in the 16th century always revolved around one question: What to do with the population?
Questions about choosing North America or South America?
I found that many book friends discussed why they did not choose North America. I would like to give a reply. 1. I personally believe that if the La Plata Plain is fully developed, the salt marshes will be eliminated and the southern part will be diverted from the Andes to build water conservancy. It is the best plain in the world. 2. The Central Valley of Chile is better than the Central Valley of California, with no shortage of water, fertile land, volcanic ash soil, and no frost damage. 3. During the Little Ice Age, there were no large east-west mountain ranges in North America, and the winter cold wave reached Mexico directly, which was a fatal problem for agriculture. 4. Although North America is close to the Ming Dynasty, the wind and waves in the North Pacific are more violent. Taking the classic Manila-Acapulco route, there is a lack of supply points in the middle, merchant ships can, and the mortality rate of immigrants is too high. Fast does not necessarily mean really fast, steady means fast. 5. In terms of trade, the only targets are Spanish and indigenous people, and it is impossible to communicate with other Western forces beyond the Spanish. Trade with Ming Japan is not applicable in the early stage. 6. Difficulty of expansion. If North America wants to expand, it must cross the tall Rocky Mountains. It can only reach the central plains by land and cannot sail to the central plains unless it defeats the Spanish who are flourishing in Mexico. In South America, in addition to crossing the Andes Mountains, you can also take the Strait of Magellan to reach the most beautiful city of La Plata. 7. For security reasons, the South American natives are relatively gentle, and the Mapuche, who are the most difficult to deal with, are not as difficult to deal with as the North American natives. And at this time, there was no Western colonization in southern South America. 8. In the mid- to long-term plan, the eastern part of North America is close to Europe. In the future, when the power expands, it will face the powerful European countries. South America only needs to face Spain and Portugal, and from the perspective of immigration speed, it cannot match the speed of Europe. South America has fewer European immigrants and has plenty of time. 9. Natural resources, both are similar, each has its own advantages and disadvantages, but the North American winter cold wave mentioned earlier. During the Little Ice Age, I personally felt that it was easier for South America to develop with barriers. 10. Geography and transportation. North America is connected to Europe to the east and Asia to the west. Panama is the same on both sides. South America controls the Southern Cone, the transportation artery of the two oceans. It can reach Africa to the east, and control Australia and the Pacific Islands to the west. In terms of expanding the living space of the race, it seems to be better, but it is still about the same. In summary.
Immigration is indeed a big problem
It is too difficult to immigrate to Ming Dynasty in this era. Can I guarantee that I can go there once a year? What is the survival rate? It depends on what the author writes.
The overseas founding novels actually don't make sense logically! There are too few overseas Chinese and it is too difficult to develop. If I travel overseas, I will definitely prepare supplies locally and find ways to return to the Chinese mainland. I will first establish a foothold on the islands surrounding the Chinese mainland and slowly develop and grow. Then he rebelled and ruled the entire Chinese continent. Then use the power of the entire China to conquer the world. If you travel overseas, slowly develop overseas and build a country. Such a choice is simply unreasonable, and no time traveler would choose it like this! Think about it, there are only so many Chinese overseas, and you have so little influence. Even if you develop for 20 years, your financial and material resources will not be able to support your large-scale immigration from mainland China. As a time traveler, only if you control the entire China can you have sufficient manpower, material resources, and financial resources to conquer the world.
Although the author is writing about South America, if there is fuel, a normal person would definitely choose North America, right? Let's not talk about the products on the west coast, just say that if you want to develop, you must immigrate. It takes three months to follow the ocean current from California to Daming, but South America, haha, it takes twice as long, how do you choose? Not to mention that the Panama Canal is not open at this time, and Spain comes from the southernmost tip of South America through the Strait of Magellan. How can you live in South America? The chance of exposure was much greater than in North America. In 1769, Spanish general Gaspar de Bertela led his subordinates to explore the terrain in the San Francisco Bay Area. On March 28, 1776, Spanish explorer Juan Bautista de Anza selected two construction sites in the area, one for military use and the other for missionary use. You are only at the end of the 16th century, and even if you are old, Spain will not come over. Not to mention that many of the gold mines in San Francisco are from stream sand and gold is easy to mine. There is no need to worry about funds in the early stage. The farming conditions in the Central Valley are good, so feeding millions of people is not a problem. To sum up, regardless of the analysis from multiple perspectives of security, development, and immigration, the west coast of North America is much better than the west coast of South America. If you think about it, South America was developed earlier, so why has North America developed into a world power instead?
Just by looking at the title of the book, you can tell that the author is an alcoholic!
Guojian 1573, Guojiao 1573……
I just like books about development, making steel, making guns, and cannons to crush Western colonization. I read South America 1630 and I still have more to say. Author, you worked hard to write it. There is a book about 1625. You just know how to fight and expand. Hundreds of thousands of people have passed twenty years. It's so slow. I can't grasp the key points. I always write about the Ming Dynasty. We came here to build infrastructure, farm, and industry, but I ended up writing off the mark. I will give you two monthly tickets to encourage you to work hard. There are too few of this type.
This book contains too much of the author's ideas, so it's no wonder it's not popular.
I have read a novel before. The protagonist's house opens a time and space passage. One side of the house leads to the late Ming Dynasty and the other side leads to North America. The protagonist sent many people from the Ming Dynasty to North America to open up wasteland. I think this is the only way. If there is no time and space channel, before the popularity of steamships in 1870, there were not many ships that could transport people across the Pacific. The Chinese mainland is tens of thousands of miles away from the Americas, and only 15,000 people can be transported every year. Even if steamships became popular in 1870, only 100,000 people could immigrate each year at most. In the 19th century, 30 million people from Europe immigrated to North America because transatlantic shipping was 10 times easier than transpacific shipping! After the popularity of steamships, more than 1 million people from Europe immigrated to America every year easily. The Chinese will only be a very small minority in America!
It doesn't matter if some traditional Chinese characters are retained. The official language is Southwest Mandarin, which is a bit abstract. There must be northerners among the travelers. There will definitely be group discrimination. Isn't this artificial division?
This kind of writing is really poisonous. If you don't have a population, you won't be able to develop, and you won't be able to cheat. This kind of writing has no logic at all. Cool writings all have logic. It's more reliable if you go to Nanyang.
I almost laugh when I read about Western pseudo-history
If you read and write Western history according to history, you will end up with a pseudo-history of the West, pick up your job and eat it_ put down your job, right? You have really ruined such a good place in Chile. Although there is nothing interesting in Santiago, the Atakama in the north is still very beautiful. The central agriculture and copper mines in the south are rich in resources and have everything. I really don't understand that you are using a computer invented by the West, looking up AI invented by the West, and writing about the story of the New World discovered by Westerners, and then you end up with a Western pseudo-historical theory. If you really want to write about the China Travel Yongle Ceremony, I won't criticize you.
Are there any historical novels about group travel that won't collapse? Do you have any Shen Nong recommendations?
I don't understand. The population is only a few thousand people. Why do you want to move eastward and open up another stronghold? Isn't it more advantageous to develop industry through population agglomeration, industry agglomeration and scale agglomeration? With the level of infrastructure in the 16th century, the distance of more than ten kilometers is a huge challenge for logistics and transportation. If you want to develop or expand, you should go along the coast, north or south. Maritime transportation is the most efficient.
South America 3D terrain map
La Plata Plains, the chosen place.
Is there another renaissance on the East Coast?
Is this written by a book friend from the East Coast? Why are the names all the same?
The location chosen was an earthquake-prone area, and the time traveled happened to be the year of the largest earthquake, in the sea near Puerto Montt. Do you feel that you no longer feel the earthquake after traveling a hundred kilometers? Level 9.5 Is estimated to be more than 8 points of hazard even 100 kilometers away...
I just read this book, and the latest one I read directly says that the Dutch ship sailed to the port to pull goods. I want to ask, is this the Strait of Magellan? Wooden sailing ships in the Strait of Magellan are open only three months a year, and the shipwreck rate exceeds 50%. Because the shipwreck rate is sometimes 100%, it is impossible to calculate the true shipwreck rate! I want to know how the previous author wrote about the opening of the Strait of Magellan to ships. The book on the establishment of the East Coast of South America was based on railway connectivity. Can anyone who has seen it all tell me? This bug determines whether I need to take a closer look. .
Li Renjun
Li Renjun
The author simply confiscated the right of his daughter's first night and the right to use his wife who traveled through the world. Then let the genes of highly intelligent businessmen be bred with their daughters and wives to reproduce high-quality genes. Just confiscating mobile phones is low-end. There is no need to make any contribution as a moral kidnapping. After all, it's all for everyone's benefit, right?
It's so good, come on, if you have Mike writing about the taste of South America, you must finish it.
It's a very good subject matter. What kind of Southwest language are you talking about? Just plain disgusting? 🧟
If South America was founded
It would be good if we could turn this part into a core area before we die. Integrate southeastern Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, and Argentina. The climate is much more livable than that of the United States, and the talent for agricultural development is an order of magnitude greater. The subtropical climate area is much larger. The plain areas are protected by plateau mountains. The annual rainfall is stronger than that of the North American Great Plains. Water resources are abundant and there is no need to rely on groundwater. The coal and steel industry can be developed. Although coal resources are insufficient, iron ore is much richer than in North America. The coastal plain is better than North America, there are no disasters such as hurricanes, and the inland shipping potential exceeds that of the United States.
Could you please tell me if there is a map?
It's similar to the one on the east coast, which is convenient for better understanding of the locations in the book
No, why are there still bosses Li Renjun and Shao Shude? I can't stand it anymore, hahahaha
Du, how can you develop if you don't have a population? It's even more impossible to transport people from the Ming Dynasty. It's so far away, and even the people of the Ming Dynasty won't agree, 🥵
Emmmm I haven't watched it yet, but how to solve the population problem in South America? You're making me afraid to watch it.
Ba Gang Port Area
This book will definitely be sealed, and a post will be issued as a certificate
Well written, very good. You, South America 1627 next door, and North America here are really my spiritual food.