
Red Mansion: Take Xue Baochai Home at the Beginning
红楼:开局把薛宝钗带回家
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Let's put it this way. To modern people, Dai Chai's status is equal, but in ancient times, their status could never be compared. It would make sense to write that Dai Yu's legitimate wife, Bao Chai, was an equal wife, but Baochai's direct wife, Dai Yu, was an equal wife. If you want to write Baochai as the heroine, you can, but the time must be before the province tests the hero.
This fanfic is really good. The characters are delicately depicted. It not only reflects the character traits clearly written in the original work, but also the author's own understanding of the original work, which allows the deep inner emotions and other sides of these characters to be displayed. The author is also very dedicated. He will explain the differences carefully. Even the daily quarrels and arguments in the court are all quoted from classics, which is very consistent with the status of these "cultural people"
It's just that the pace is too slow. There are only one chapter per day, and it takes a long time. When reading, I forget the previous part, and the plot is not coherent. I need to set up more interesting points. The title is Marry Home, but it has not been carried out to the title part for so long. The plot of the good wife has not been developed. When Baochai enters the house, a plot conflict point should be set up to make the originally dull plot stir up waves again and continue to attract people's hearts. In addition, it is not necessary to have all the twelve golden hairpins in the bag. Miaoyu is a little weird. She is aloof and aloof when she gets married as a monk. Where these things are not there, having to have all the twelve gold hairpins in the bag seems to be a harem. It is good to have seen beauty. She must hold the beauty in her own hands. It seems too forced. Baoyu's characterization cannot be all bad, there must be some good parts. Characters that are too stereotyped are not vivid, like Lu Qiu'er in the snow, he is the one who kills people like hemp, and he is the one who values love and justice. He is a humane talent image.
To be honest, author, do you know why so many people criticize you? Because you don't understand the content of the ancient number one scholar at all! Let Xue Baochai be the official wife? And let the emperor grant a marriage? I'm afraid you didn't do any homework, just write and play, right? First of all, the emperor granted marriage to the daughter of a businessman, and the protagonist was the number one scholar! If you are a civil servant and marry a businessman's daughter, what will your colleagues think and what will others think? If you think about the fact that the emperor granted the marriage, this will directly end the protagonist's official career! The main wife could be Qin Keqing, a member of the official family, or the emperor could marry Jia Yuanchun. Of course, Xichun could also be the eldest daughter, but she was a little too young! They are all better than Xue Baochai! I hope that if you adopt it, it can be of some help to the author!
The first part was okay, it was a bit overwhelming, the progress of the plot was okay, and I could tolerate a little bit of trouble. You gave me a marriage later... Which emperor would make up for you for wronging you? The real emperor always told me that without him, you wouldn't even be able to keep a Jinshi. You still have to thank him, even if you make up for it, give you a marriage? ? Granting a merchant's daughter is still on the side of the Supreme Emperor. You should know the status of merchants in ancient times, right? Your era is set after the Ming Dynasty. The status of merchants in the Ming Dynasty was low-class, and they couldn't even dress well. As an emperor, you would grant a marriage to the number one scholar (the third most beautiful woman), or not to the daughter of a minister, to the Xue family? ? I think it would be more appropriate to marry Daiyu. Her father is a die-hard emperor, a fellow from Qingliu, and he is also a prostitute... What do you do...
Your marriage gift is too humiliating. First, Huang Shang's official status is not a famous official, and Ziweishe's rank is not high, so he cannot be a famous official. The imperial merchants of all dynasties were domestic slaves who served the emperor's personal affairs. Not to mention, in the Ming and Qing Dynasties, they were responsible for the ceremonial eunuchs and the internal affairs office. Do you think they have the highest family status? Second, those who lose the election should not be worthy of being a lady from a famous family. If someone is unqualified in some aspect, it would be a humiliation for him to marry me. You were given a marriage by the emperor, and you didn't marry on your own because you "didn't make a name for yourself". When you give rewards to others, do you give away unqualified ones?
Is this for Shilin? Do you want to torture the protagonist to death? Don't write emotional dramas according to modern concepts. Even if you write that the heroine is the legitimate daughter of a low-level official like Qin Keqing, it will be fine. When a prostitute marries the daughter of a businessman, do you want the protagonist to never be able to make a difference? Jia Minrong, the legitimate daughter of the country, always married Lin Ruhai. What you wrote is really funny. I have commented on more than one book. It doesn't matter if you take cats and dogs as concubines, but the heroine Xue Baochai is a fool, unless you start your career in the military.
🙃The emperor granted me a marriage as compensation, but it turned out that she was a merchant's daughter, and the protagonist was the number one scholar. I laughed to death. First: The emperor began to clean up the old military honors. That is because he has the basic foundation of Shilin, and then you give a merchant a marriage to the number one scholar. Are you slapping Shilin, Wu Qingsao, and Wen Lide in the face? Who can secure the throne? In the Red Mansion, the throne is undecided. How could an emperor be so stupid? The rest of the writing is pretty good, but this gift of marriage is outrageous.
Why do you think the Xue family can't do it? Businessman ≠ business status. Praising one and belittling the other made me very angry. Baochai and Daiyu both had miserable fates.
The Xue family is not a businessman, but a scholar. Without the original work, it would be impossible to choose a female official. Reason 1 is that Cao Xueqin is also an imperial merchant. Reason 2 is that merchants cannot be called the four major families with the other three families. Some people can only say "scholars, farmers, industry and merchants" to completely reject it. In the words of people who are obsessed with personal preferences, even the Yamen of Yingtian Mansion are higher than the top imperial merchants. If Baochai's father is a businessman, can he marry a daughter of the Wang family? There was a shortage of white jade beds in the East China Sea, so the Dragon King came to invite the King of Jinling. How worried are the daughters of the Wang family that they have to be at the bottom of society after getting married? The Xue family is an imperial merchant who "receives the money and food from the government". It is a four-generation family with a name in the household department, receives money from the treasury, and uses the emperor's money to do business. The family has a millionaire and is one of the largest families in the country. Is such a family really inferior to a middle-level official? With so many foreshadowings and descriptions by the author, can it really be simple? Is it negated by the words "scholars, farmers, industry and commerce"? The four major families in Jinling are clearly from Jinling Province, not Jinling Mansion. The guardian talisman is clearly within the scope of the whole province. "This province is the most powerful, extremely rich and noble" is clearly the original sentence in the book. The author clearly writes that Xue Mingming, the king of Jia Shi, is the four most powerful and wealthy local wealthy families in the entire province of Jinling. The ancestor of the Xue family was a "Ziwei Sheren". Later, he abandoned Confucianism and became a businessman and became a wealthy man. According to the law, there should be distinctions between scholars and merchants, but the Xue family still interacted with and exchanged marriages with official families after entering business. The "Feng Nian Hao Da Xue" family was still among the four major families, on an equal footing with the other three families, and its social status was not reduced. The Xue family entered Beijing in the name of sending Xue Baochai to the palace to be selected as a female official. The purpose of this "draft" was to select a companion for the royal daughter, and the selection scope was "famous officials". It can be seen that the Xue family was not excluded from this ranks after they entered business. Therefore, marrying him, even if he is not a good match according to what you said, is not considered a lowly marriage. At most it is not a clear stream, but a turbid stream.
A failed show girl was given to a potential beauty, and Qingliu's face was stepped on like mud.
I was thinking about it, this Dream of Red Mansions fanfic is well written, with both literary and martial arts, and it's not one of those fanfics where you pick up women every day. Why do these readers have so many opinions? This book looks good, the plot is smooth and not awkward, and I didn't stop reading when I saw a woman. It seems pretty relaxed, why do you guys have such big opinions?
I came here after seeing the marriage conferment! So it's to scold the author! Xue Baochai is not worthy of Tanhua. I cannot accept the author's arrangement. It's an insult to my historical knowledge. Xue Baochai blows to the sky and is the daughter of an imperial merchant.
I saw the author exalting the status of merchants in ancient feudal society in the comment area... I couldn't help but say a few words... The beholder sees the benevolence, the wise see the wisdom... The author has difficulty in coding, and there are some flaws, but we should treat them with tolerance... Xue Family The second wife was engaged to the Mei Hanlin family... The author specifically mentioned this matter as evidence that the status of the businessman was not so low... This was because the relationship between the dignitaries in the court and China at that time was complicated, and the Xue family was also one of them... And then added that Wang Ziteng acted as a matchmaker. ... So, in fact, the Mei Hanlin family had to be "humiliated" to accept this marriage... As for... Why it is said to be humiliated... Feudal society, with strict classes, scholars, farmers, industry and commerce, is not a joke, but Whenever there is chaos, the world will be in turmoil. After all, this class is still synonymous with various huge interest communities... Scholars govern the country, farming country, industrial country, business chaos... After all, businessmen are profit-seeking by nature. There are patriotic businessmen, but how many are there? ? Not to mention that the "profit" pursued by businessmen is in natural conflict with the "benevolence" at the heart of Confucianism... Otherwise, where did the word "copper smell" come from, and why is it on the lips of scholars every day? This principle has been used throughout the feudal civilization of China for thousands of years... How come you... You have promoted merchants so highly... Merchants can be used, but cannot be reused. Business must be valued, but business must not be allowed to affect military affairs... This principle has even been used to this day... And you... The combination of politics and business, a wealthy family quietly arises... If the one who marries a wife is still a feudal The words of the Xinjiang officials... Tsk tsk... The word "competing with the people for profit", in ancient times... Was not just a simple word, it could even affect whether the heirs of the dynasty could successfully succeed to the throne... So, businessmen are inherently unable to occupy more say and opportunities in the Confucian cultural environment... So, how can businessmen be on an equal footing with scholars? ? How can we openly compete for interests with the "people" whom the scholars defend? ? How could merchants exploit the "labor" that scholars needed? ? At least, on the surface, it is not allowed... Well, in the entire dynasty, he married Zhang Shangshu's daughter, he married Li Hanlin's sister... As for you, you married the daughter of a merchant... So... You tell me, does it count as an insult for a prominent figure in the dynasty to marry the daughter of a merchant...? ? Of course, it is not that there are no high-ranking officials who marry the daughters of businessmen, but most of them are either from a good family with a very good reputation... Or the man is extremely noble, has a very strict family education, and is not burdened by fame... Author, you can promote businessmen, but you have to deal with it well, either the wife's family squanders the family wealth to gain fame, or the wife is married to a person with a very high reputation in the world... Otherwise, at least no one in the world wants to marry the daughter of a businessman. My wife makes friends... After all, no one wants to be said, "Did you think he married a rich woman and had money to have fun, so you went to play with him?"... ……... As for the emperor's marriage grant... To be honest, I'm afraid you have a misunderstanding of the word "nobility"... Let alone the censor's words and official comments on the emperor every now and then... Those literati resisted the emperor's orders that were detrimental to his reputation. It is quite common to disobey orders, and there are not a few who even resist orders and disobey... This is called not flattering the imperial power and not harming one's character... In the world, it is a matter of great fame... After all, you know Tao, the emperor alone cannot rule the country... Except for those founding emperors, ancient emperors, for scholars, are not just those who listen to what they say, and kneel down to accept orders when they are told... I haven't read the book yet, but those who dare to write about Red Mansions should at least have adequate writing skills and be confident. Anyway, I can't compare to them... Then the logic should be more rigorous. At least it can be justified. I think the vast majority of readers will be able to accept it selectively... After all, readers only read novels for entertainment and to kill time. Those who read books with the intention of finding faults are just a small group...
Looking at the analogy, Lin Ruhai is the most favored daughter of the prince, and Jia Min, the most favored daughter of the prince, marries Lin Ruhai. The protagonist, who was once the number one scholar, is now the most beautiful woman, and is given a marriage to the daughter of a down-and-out royal businessman. Even then, the author feels that the protagonist has reached a high level (he said that if it were not for the marriage, he would not be worthy). Is the protagonist so humble? Is it said to be compensation from the emperor to the protagonist? Can Baochai bring some help to the protagonist? It would be nice not to hold the protagonist back, but the candidate for the marriage was chosen inexplicably! I know that the author likes Baochai, but I can't describe the protagonist as if he is a high-ranking person. The protagonist's current achievements are the result of Baochai.
The Red Mansion fandom is the one I have ever seen that doesn't follow the basic laws of history the most. Even in the Song Dynasty, when the commercial economy was developed, literati would not marry the daughter of a merchant. Scholars, farmers, industry and commerce, what do you think the problem is? That's a class issue! Even imperial merchants, in the eyes of scholar-bureaucrats, were synonymous with low-class people such as Goulan and actors. There was also an emperor who arranged for a merchant girl to be married to the new beauty of the dynasty. Are you crazy? Did the corporal die that day? Do you know the political implications here? It's like asking a Western manor owner to marry the daughter of a Kunlun slave. You are not afraid of being "suddenly killed" either. What a good target.
The emperor gave Tanhua a marriage to a businesswoman, so all the scholars in the world must not start a fuss? What do you mean this is grace? This is obviously an insult to scholars, the author is also a tough guy, and this book is basically cool
This is the first time I see an emperor granting me a favor. I can't even call it a favor. This should be regarded as compensation. Then as compensation, the protagonist is given a failed show girl. This show girl is also a merchant girl, and even the protagonist is a prostitute. Don't you look at who the other prostitute in the Red Mansion is marrying? The legitimate daughter of Duke Rong, even if Lin Ruhai has a family background bonus, this is reasonable. The emperor granted marriage and then gave a beautiful girl who was not selected, it is really amazing.
I specially set a chapter to criticize you. Chapter 44 is about giving Qin Keqing the status of a childhood sweetheart and asking him to get married? Does the protagonist have to go out of his way to find it? Author, what was your state of mind when you wrote this chapter? ? You have some green-haired turtle attributes. Finally, I want to ask, brother, do you have a childhood sweetheart?
Seeing the wedding treasure hairpin, I wanted to ask which young talent was given a marriage by the emperor to the daughter of a merchant. This is not pure wisdom.
Most fans of Red Mansions are confused by giving Baochai, who is not qualified to be a palace maid, to the wedding groom. Fans of Red Mansions should not ignore the common sense of the Ming and Qing dynasties, otherwise it will conflict too much with the original work.
Okay, basically there are no logical loopholes. If you keep it at this level, you can book it all. Also, there is no big cool thing that has come out for so long, such as poetry, inventions, etc. Although it is a bit cliché, it works. It's really fun to be cool at the right time. Otherwise, it's such a cliché and cool thing, and I still use it after so many years. Come on
I found it interesting after reading the comments. I feel like some people don't understand the meaning of gifted marriage and private marriage. Marrying privately is the family's business. Marrying a slave is the family's business. At most, some people will not understand it and will say that it only lowers one's own status and cannot rise to the collective level. But granting marriage has another meaning. This meaning is the appeasement of nobles, aristocratic families, or scholars by the imperial power.
Why do you think there are so many stallions in Red Mansion? Can't you be more dedicated?
I don't like the name Xue Baochai. When I see this name, I will think of Xue Baochai in The Legend of Xue Rengui. It's disgusting.
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This Red Mansion novel is quite well written, and the plot is online, but the author is a little out of touch with expressing his personal emotions. I will keep chasing you. It depends on how you get Shi Xiangyun from the first and second house to your own nest.
On the conflict between "preconception" and "setting".
I just want to say that sometimes even if you are serious about checking data and writing a book. After conflicting with the common cognition, it is not good. I am talking about the matter of "Marriage to Xue Baochai". And "scholars, farmers, industry and commerce" is the common perception. Although "the end of the universe is a system" is a joke, we can also see the core behind this joke. It is true that the Xue family in "A Dream of Red Mansions" is not a "merchant" in the general perception, but how many people have read the original work and can understand the status of the "Xue family"? Again, among the general public, the historical understanding of "scholars, farmers, industry and commerce" has been finalized. Our movies and TV dramas, historical allusions, history courses, and school education all say that "only reading is good" Of course, this is not static, but just like "outline and outline", it is still inseparable from the four words "scholars, farmers, industry and commerce". This creates a problem. Yes, the author writes very clearly in the book. In theory, there is no problem in marrying Xue Baochai. But this is "awkward" in the eyes of people who already have "preconceived ideas" about "business". Not to mention that she was the daughter of a "merchant" given to the bride by the emperor (even if she explained it, she still thought she was a merchant, and the common perception is also a stereotype.) I think if Xue Baochai was just a farmer's daughter, a craftsman's daughter, or had another "professional title", the controversy would not be so big. In the eyes of most people, they cannot imagine that an emperor in the feudal period would marry a "merchant girl" to a "business girl" in the top three rankings representing literati. (But if Zhu Houzhao did this, everyone would easily accept it. Because he gives people the impression that he "does whatever he wants", even if he is not.) In fact, just like Honghuangliu, the original work of "Journey to the West" clearly states that Sun Wukong is a stone monkey born and raised, but Honghuangliu only recognizes the Nuwa stone. Up to now, the theory of Nuwa Stone has surpassed the theory of the original work. It's like if you want to write a novel about "Fengshen" or "Journey to the West", if you write it according to the setting of the original novel, it will definitely be brilliant, it will be beautiful, and it will be so popular that even your mother won't recognize it. Because most of the current online readers do not think that Sun Wukong has grown up on the journey to the West, nor do they think that Journey to the West is inherently "human and worldly". They also don't think that "Virtue" is the highest in Journey to the West (this is the core given by the historical background) They only think of "Conspiracy", "Saint", "Strength" and "Invincible", because they feel "good" and feel good, so they will naturally continue to read it willingly. If you violate this cognition, you will naturally not have a "good end" (currently, I have only seen the book "The Big Poison Monkey" that can violate this cognition) Just like the author who wrote "The Poor Dao Should Be a Tribulation", he wrote "The Great Immortal of the Gods" and "I Come to This World to Open the Avenue" are all brilliant, but if you can't write, you just have no results, and "this person is unknown" behind the glass heart. For example, Yang Jian, if he did not write about the relationship between San Sheng Sheng and Agarwood, he would probably be criticized to the point of being autistic. However, the so-called San Sheng Sheng and Agarwood are from the story of "Erlang of Huashan". Erlang Shen has always been an only son. This is also a commonly recognized stereotype. People's prejudices are a big mountain. Individual efforts cannot defeat it.
How to say it? The writing is good, but it feels a bit lacking in taste. Do you feel that the protagonist is a little too out of the ordinary? There is no serious atmosphere like ancient times. It's just a little too dramatic, just a little plot-y. It can't be compared with Ryo and Jiuwu outside the house. But it's definitely better looking than 80% of the current Red Mansion fans.
The protagonist even wants to recruit murderers. It's so awesome. I really can't agree with it. It's useless to subscribe so much.
I passed by the party and gave the author a thumbs up. If I have any questions, he really responds. His quality is really high and he is really polite. I also plan to read this book. Everyone is welcome to express their opinions so that the author can have more time and energy to create. Finally, come on!