Ming's Industrial Revolution

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Something feels wrong. I have never read the history of the Ming Dynasty, so I don't have this foundation. Our understanding of the Ming Dynasty basically comes from the events of the Ming Dynasty. If the book had not been compiled. I don't think increasing productivity will save the Ming Dynasty. Not only the authors of Qidian, but almost everyone likes to look at problems from their own perspective. The author saw the lack of productivity in the Ming Dynasty, but that was compared with modern society. There were no consecutive years of disaster in the Ming Dynasty, and there was no problem at all in shaming latecomers, including Li Zicheng. Give tomorrow a chance to breathe. If outsiders react slowly, they will never have another chance. So if we don't solve the system problem, no matter how good the guns are, we can't do it. If it cannot be transported to the battlefield and there is no one to coordinate it, it will be in vain if it is built. More people like to simplify complex problems, thinking that as long as the technology tree is pointed out. It will definitely be invincible in the world. But all authors avoid the question of loyalty. The setting is that all his subordinates are loyal. But this is absolutely impossible. A dynasty that has lasted for hundreds of years and brainwashing for hundreds of years is definitely not a joke. Just like freedom, equality, environment, and human rights, they are restricted areas for others. If you want to change, no matter how reasonable you are, the only result will be failure. Even if everyone can work together (which is still not possible, and I think this will never be possible) cultivating qualified workers does not happen overnight. Students are required to study English seriously since elementary school. However, how many of them can use English proficiently in the college entrance examination? This is just a difference in language. And if you want to cultivate a group of industrial talents, it will take decades to have qualified thinking. So whenever there is a plot where the protagonist will quickly solve the problem whenever necessary, I am speechless. If a protagonist is willing to sacrifice his life, not to fight for power, not to enjoy life. If you focus on cultivating talents, a behemoth may appear in the world decades after the protagonist dies of old age. It's a pity that the main characters are all selfish. I am saying in these points that the modern industrial system cannot be established by a single person. And I would rather say that even if modern industry is really established. This dynasty should collapse or it will collapse. No matter how powerful a weapon is, it still requires someone to use it. The same thing in the hands of different people has very different effects. There are really big differences between different weapons and different tactics. Just those people who fought for power hundreds of years ago. If you give him a nuclear bomb, it will be for free. It's useless.

There are too many people with bad views these days. I suspect that most people just read the first chapter and then found out that the protagonist did not rebel and came to complain.

There are too many bright fans at the starting point. How have they been brainwashed? Since ancient times, there has been a saying: Princes, generals and prime ministers, would you rather have the seed? Why can't we rebel? The late Ming Dynasty, which was rotten to the core, will be completely destroyed and a new dynasty will be rebuilt!

When Chongzhen was in power, there were internal and external worries. There is a saying that if the king doubts the minister, he will be punished; if the minister doubts the king, he will rebel. Chongzhen suspected Yuan Chonghuan and killed him. The Donglin Party is determined to change the situation. Chongzhen did not want to kill them or could not kill them, so he lingered for a long time and hung himself on the southeast branch.

Many people commented that there was no soil for the Industrial Revolution at the end of the Ming Dynasty. I was confused. The fruits were all in the protagonist's head, so why bother with the soil problem? As long as the protagonist finds a way to get the results of the revolution - technology out of his mind, does this have anything to do with the capitalists and class? Secondly, if the protagonist wants to turn the technical route in his mind into results and keep the results, you must have force! Either you become the emperor yourself or rebel, which is the best policy; being a dog leg to others, or giving up your interests and compromising with others, is theoretically possible... But if you pin your life and career on the idea that others don't want to rob you, where is the pleasure? This is the poisoning of Chiguoguo. Well, I'm going to read a book now.

In fact, institutions are not the key to the success of the Industrial Revolution. 1. The Industrial Revolution uses machinery and other tools to increase our productivity. The increase in productivity can solve the problem of food and clothing for the people. Once the problem of food and clothing is solved, will the people care about your system? 2. The success of our country's industrial revolution lies in the fact that small family industrial workshops provided the soil for the industrial revolution. Why? Because the industrial revolution is a bottom-up process, such as large industrial enterprises in Southeast Asian countries. They are castles in the air and flashy. 3. I prefer that when the author wrote about the replacement of manpower by machinery, he did not realize the industrial revolution in a violent and barbaric way, but in a cyclical and gradual way, with warm water simmering the world. 4. I admit that the author should have added some illogical events for the dramatic effect of the work. But overall I think it's a good novel. The above opinions mainly come from "The Great Chinese Industrial Revolution". Interested students can check it out.

If the Ming Dynasty does not seek death, it will only take a matter of minutes to kill the Manchus. To be honest, this book is a bit unreadable. The development of science can only be driven by one or two people. What is needed is a large number of people with a scientific ideological system. Of course, this is not the most important thing. The most important thing is that even if the Ming Dynasty had nuclear bombs, those Confucianists would choose to surrender. This is not a weapon issue at all.

When European philosophers of the same period were shining like stars, we had not yet understood the relationship between productivity and institutions. Therefore, the European Revolution produced the Declaration of Human Rights, while our students were studying how to better copy their ancestors. Therefore, the difference between our Ming and Qing Dynasties is not science and technology. Even if you build Gundam to help the Ming Dynasty, it will still harm us Han people. At that time, what we needed were liberal arts students who could study the future, not science and technology. I dare to say that at any time if we have someone who understands the relationship between productivity and the system, we will be on the right path.

Let's not talk about whether it was possible for you to engage in industry in the late Ming Dynasty when you didn't have enough to eat. With such high manufacturing efficiency, can your raw materials keep up? When the warlords separatized the country, even if you bought the raw materials and were taxed all the way, you could make a profit mmp. Is this any different from the Republic of China period when you saved the country through industry and ran back to develop industry, only to be robbed and forced to go bankrupt? You have repeatedly emphasized that you don't want to scheming with these people. If you don't cut off this carrion that is lying on the country and sucking blood, you can develop a ghost. Do you believe that the things you make can't make it out of the capital? Relying on Chongzhen is even more unreliable. Chongzhen is not a qualified boss. It is common for his subordinates to be in trouble. He also likes to command at higher levels like Chang Kaishen. The key point is that he does not have Chang Kaishen's political skills. I will only tell you what I feel after reading more than a dozen pictures. If you want to industrialize the revolution, you must first increase food production. Otherwise, the gentry's urine will be cooked in Jiangnan. Cooked in the world will become cooked in Huguang. Cooked in the world. Why? Because *** grows tea and raises silkworms to make a fortune. They don't care about the national food output. As long as your food is stable and the people have food, you will not invent and create. At that time, the handicraft industry of the Ming Dynasty could crush the whole world. You only need to be responsible for popularizing education and letting people learn scientific knowledge. Plus improving the status of scientists, everything will fall into place. The more advanced the technology, the better. With the current approach, once the protagonist dies, he will basically regress. It is useless to fight alone. Don't tell me why Support accumulating strength, making money to develop strength, and competing in the Central Plains, because like in ancient China, you were not the founding emperor, and you did not have such a big say. The whole country listened to you, and you had great prestige. As long as you wanted to develop science and technology, you were not the emperor at that time. Confucianism can play you to death, and if someone is as strong as Zhang Juzheng, people will die and the government will die after death. If you are the founding emperor and live to the age of Qianlong, after decades of development, a large number of followers of the Technological Religion have developed, plus the ancestral family law, what is the ancestral precept? That is, the national policy you set is a basic national policy, and it is almost impossible for future generations to repeat it. Unless the country is destroyed, all that is left can only be to add words to the framework of your ancestral precepts. You must be able to build a team of 100 people and specialize in picking out words. Such experts are engaged in ancestral precepts more than ten or twenty years in advance. 😂 I think there must be loopholes, one time There are special circumstances of an era, but basically you can only play within your framework. In addition, the interest groups in the new era in the era of 2-3 emperors do not allow the "farming, reading and heirloom" of the past to reappear. The above is a personal opinion, Ps: Just a few chapters into the book, and then the gun is fired? How did you solve the problem of spring materials? Just the ancient method of frying steel? If you want to study science and technology first, study materials first. This is at least slightly more reasonable.

There are big problems with the development of the protagonist. First, the internal environment is unsafe. As Donglin grows bigger, he always cares about the protagonist's life, while Shanxi merchants betray the country and always care about the protagonist's technology. Peasant uprisings were also a very destabilizing factor. Second, the external environment is unsafe. The impact is not that big, and it is not the primary issue. The protagonist is just researching technology in such an environment, but has no plans for Donglin and Shanxi merchants. To be honest, as long as the opponent has some brains, he can defeat the protagonist. The protagonist's allies also don't work well. Now that King Fu is an ally, we should gather a group of nobles through him and provide some convenience for industrialization through this group. The two wealthy businessmen are allies, so why not gather a capital group through them? Industrialization requires a lot of money. How can one person or a few people quickly trigger the industrial revolution? In fact, everyone knows that the late Ming Dynasty was rotten to the core. Whether it was rebelling in the late Ming Dynasty or helping Chongzhen, it required an injection of iron and blood. Without the baptism of blood, it would have been impossible to have a stable industrial revolution in the late Ming Dynasty. So the protagonist's second-generation steam engine came out, but he only had a few royal guards around him. No one had an army, and they didn't have in-depth exchanges with Chongzhen. They just wanted to build machines.

Only technology without science is a platform without a foundation, and the limit of development is very low. The people who really opened the door to the new world in the late Ming Dynasty were Galileo, Descartes, Huygens, Hooke, Newton, Kepler, Boyle, Pascal, Mason, Lópida, Veda, the Bernoulli family, Harvey, Helmont, Desargues, Wallis, Cavalieri and so on. Scientists and mathematicians

The protagonist is an academician of the Academy of Sciences and has been educated in the core values ​​of socialism. How come wives and concubines were accepted in ancient times? Not going monogamous.

I haven't read this book yet, but the reviews are quite exciting. But after reading your introduction, it seems that it is not that difficult to carry out the Industrial Revolution during the time of Chongzhen, or before the Qing Dynasty. You have to solve the food problem, the social system problem, the problems of various aristocratic families, etc. Etc.; First of all, the food problem: in ancient times, if others could not necessarily have enough to eat, who would start the industrial revolution with you? In addition to institutional issues in the changes of dynasties in ancient times, the most important thing was that various natural disasters led to insufficient food production capacity, which would lead to large-scale uprisings. Only by killing a group of people in an uprising would A natural disaster will kill a group of people, resulting in a sharp decline in the population. Only the remaining people will have enough to eat; the second is the problem of social system: the system of each dynasty will decay to a certain extent, but before it decays, there will basically be no major changes, or even if you want to change, it will touch the interests of some people. Then it goes back to the starting point; the third one is the aristocracy: if you want to carry out the industrial revolution, you will inevitably touch their interests. Unless you are an aristocrat and one of the top group, you can win over them to a certain extent and then get rid of them, otherwise you will be eaten up by them. You are traveling through the Chongzhen period, and you have taken all three of these points. Talents can be cultivated. If you have no money, no one can make a revolution. The most important thing is that in the late Ming Dynasty, people in Xiaobinghe have no food and no one can help you to make an industrial revolution. It is useless to tell the truth with the aristocrats. If you have no say, you will be tricked by them. So if you want to make an industrial revolution in the Chongzhen period, if the aristocrats do not have a system, you must have money, food, troops, weapons, a large population, etc. Before you can start it.

How to put it, it is the background of the times and the theme of developing science that I like to read, but, uh, I don't know how to express it. The Ming Dynasty died due to civil strife, institutional rigidity, and the Little Ice Age. Various reasons were intertwined, but it was definitely not due to productivity issues. That's all. Otherwise, there will be suspicions of trolls. This may be the difference between emphasizing literature and emphasizing theory. Come on, author!

Come on, author (broken sound) I've seen too many sunspots! If you don't like to look at the upper right corner, it's okay if the online article is cool, but we can't understand it if there are too many technological values ​​and so on, right? Why bother with so much, isn't the system flow even more ridiculous? I don't believe you haven't seen it

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The most annoying thing is that people with golden fingers go to work as slaves for the corrupt Zhu family. North Korea can learn most of the modern science and technology, but can North Koreans have enough to eat? What use can technology have if the system remains unchanged?

The biggest failure is that the protagonist is a slave and wants to start an industrial revolution. The more industrial revolution requires modern knowledge, the less Ming Dynasty will allow you to exist unless you rebel.

The Ming Dynasty was an agricultural society and was most susceptible to natural and man-made disasters, so a disaster relief plot can be added, and I hope it will be widely adopted. Now the protagonist is promoting the process of the industrial revolution, which has far-reaching influence, and can give a close-up of the changes in people's living habits and ideological concepts.

I want to see a red protagonist, is there really no starting point? A protagonist who is all selfish and just to satisfy his own vulgar taste?

First, we need to develop science and technology and production, and foster a new interest class. Then we start with running newspapers to influence public opinion, publicize reforms, and try to establish new rules for dividing the cake.

Congratulations to the author for making a fortune, I am also an old reader.

The twilight day of the first lunar month: at the end of each month People cook dishes to gather, drink, and go boating. All the gentlemen and women went to the waterside to wash their skirts and pour some wine on the waterside to relieve the disaster. It shows that people also have activities to ward off evil spirits by the water.

Is this a wedding dress for the Manchus?

The more industrialized, the more liberated the mind, and the larger the population, the faster the feudal Ming Dynasty will fall.

The protagonist will definitely be played to death by the Donglin Party, the Eight Imperial Merchants of the Qing Dynasty, the Jurchens, Chongzhen, and the Jiangnan gentry.

Read a few chapters. The protagonist can't survive more than a few chapters in reality.

The protagonist has no social experience at all. With your small status, you are still studying textile looms. If you are good at the front, you will be killed directly behind. The officials will confiscate the technology and keep it secret and make it yourself. You will get nothing. With such an awesome existence, you can go to remote places, organize rebellions, and work in the court. What the Ming Dynasty did to the Qing Dynasty to the peasant army was not technology at all.